Hi, Martin and Kate: KATE: Do you really want the noncentral t? It has mean zero but strange tails created by a denominator following a noncentral chi-square. The answer Martin gave is for a scaled but otherwise standard t, which sounds like what you want, since you said the "sample mean = 0.23, s = 4.04, etc. A noncentral t has an additional "noncenrality parameter". Hope this helps. Spencer
Martin Maechler wrote:
"k" == kate  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    on Thu, 8 May 2008 10:45:04 -0500 writes:

k> In my data, sample mean =-0.3 and the histogram looks like t distribution; k> therefore, I thought non-central t distribution may be a good fit. Anyway, I k> try t distribution to get MLE. I found some warnings as follows; besides, I k> got three parameter estimators: m=0.23, s=4.04, df=1.66. I want to simulate k> the data with sample size 236 and this parameter estimates. Is the command k> rt(236, df=1.66)? Where should I put m and s when I do simulation?

 m  +  s * rt(n, df= df)

[I still hope this isn't a student homework problem...]

Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich

    k> m           s          df
    k> 0.2340746   4.0447124   1.6614823
    k> (0.3430796) (0.4158891) (0.2638703)
    k> Warning messages:
    k> 1: In dt(x, df, log) : generates NaNs
    k> 2: In dt(x, df, log) : generates NaNs
    k> 3: In dt(x, df, log) :generates NaNs
    k> 4: In log(s) : generates NaNs
    k> 5: In dt(x, df, log) : generates NaNs
    k> 6: In dt(x, df, log) : generates NaNs

    k> Thanks a lot,

    k> Kate

k> ----- Original Message ----- k> From: "Prof Brian Ripley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    k> To: "kate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    k> Cc: <r-help@r-project.org>
    k> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:02 AM
    k> Subject: Re: [R] MLE for noncentral t distribution


    >> On Thu, 8 May 2008, kate wrote:
>> >>> I have a data with 236 observations. After plotting the histogram, I >>> found that it looks like non-central t distribution. I would like to get >>> MLE for mu and df. >> >> So you mean 'non-central'? See ?dt. >> >>> I found an example to find MLE for gamma distribution from "fitting >>> distributions with R": >>> >>> library(stats4) ## loading package stats4
    >>> ll<-function(lambda,alfa) {n<-200
    >>> x<-x.gam
    >>> -n*alfa*log(lambda)+n*log(gamma(alfa))-(alfa-
    >>> 1)*sum(log(x))+lambda*sum(x)} ## -log-likelihood function
    >>> est<-mle(minuslog=ll, start=list(lambda=2,alfa=1))
>>> >>> Is anyone how how to write down -log-likelihood function for noncentral t >>> distribution? >> >> Just use dt. E.g. >> >>> library(MASS)
    >>> ?fitdistr
>> >> shows you a worked example for location, scale and df, but note the >> comments. You could fit a non-central t, but it would be unusual to do >> so. >> >>> >>> Thanks a lot!! >>> >>> Kate

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