On Aug 5, 2011, at 23:16 , Paul Smith wrote:

> Thanks, Frank. The following piece of code generate data, which
> exhibit the problem I reported:
> 
> -----------------------------------------
> set.seed(123)
> intercept = -1.32
> beta = 1.36
> xtest = rbinom(1000,1,0.5)
> linpred = intercept + xtest*beta
> prob = exp(linpred)/(1 + exp(linpred))
> runis = runif(1000,0,1)
> ytest = ifelse(runis < prob,1,0)
> xtest <- as.factor(xtest)
> ytest <- as.factor(ytest)
> require(rms)
> model <- lrm(ytest ~ xtest,x=T,y=T)
> model
> residuals.lrm(model,'gof')
> -----------------------------------------

Basically, what you have is zero divided by zero, except that floating point 
inaccuracy turns it into the ratio of two small numbers. So the Z statistic is 
effectively rubbish.
This comes about because the SSE minus its expectation has effectively zero 
variance, which makes it rather useless for testing whether the model fits.

Since the model is basically a full model for a 2x2 table, it is not surprising 
to me that "goodness of fit" tests behave poorly. In fact, I would conjecture 
that no sensible g.o.f. test exists for that case.

> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Frank Harrell <f.harr...@vanderbilt.edu> 
> wrote:
>> Please provide the data or better the R code for simulating the data that
>> shows the problem.  Then we can look further into this.
>> Frank
>> 
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