Hi Mark, Thanks for your response. After some detective work I figured out the answer to my question.
The models > lm.split=lm(Y~B*V+B*N+V*N) > lmer.split=lmer(Y~V+N+V:N+(1|B)+(1|B:V)+(1|B:N)) contain exactly the same terms. The difference is that blocking factor (B) is fixed in first model but random in the second. I stand by my statement that >> The decomposition of the sum of squares should be the same regardless of >> whether block is treated as random of fixed. because the decomposition does not depend on distributional assumptions. It is completely deterministic. So why does the sum of squares for variety (V) produced by anova command different for the two models? > anova(lmm.split) Analysis of Variance Table Df Sum Sq Mean Sq F value V 2 526.1 263.0 1.4853 N 3 20020.5 6673.5 37.6856 V:N 6 321.8 53.6 0.3028 > anova(lm.split) Analysis of Variance Table Response: Y Df Sum Sq Mean Sq F value Pr(>F) B 5 15875.3 3175.1 15.4114 1.609e-07 *** V 2 1786.4 893.2 4.3354 0.02219 * N 3 20020.5 6673.5 32.3926 1.540e-09 *** B:V 10 6013.3 601.3 2.9188 0.01123 * B:N 15 1788.2 119.2 0.5786 0.86816 V:N 6 321.7 53.6 0.2603 0.95103 Residuals 30 6180.6 206.0 The answer appears to be that the sums of squares and mean squares in the lmer anova table are scaled by a ratio of the residual variance to a linear combination of estimated variance components, so that dividing each mean square by the residual variance gives the "correct" F-statistic. This example is complicated by the fact that the REML estimate of the BN variance is zero, which explains why the sum of squares for nitrogen (N) is not rescaled and why the F-statistics are not all in agreement with the classical ones given below. Source DFNum DFDen F Ratio V 2 10 1.4853 N 3 15 55.9805 V*N 6 30 0.2603 Regards, Jim. -- View this message in context: http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/ANOVA-table-and-lmer-tp3027546p3036469.html Sent from the R help mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.