Thomas, How popular is R inside of NOAA?
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Thomas Adams <thomas.ad...@noaa.gov> wrote: > OK > > My Grandfather, who was a farmer, was outstanding in his field > > Cheers > > > Murray M Cooper, PhD wrote: > >> For what its worth! >> >> A good friend who also happens to be an ecologist >> told me "An ecologist is a statistician who likes to be >> outside". >> >> Murray M Cooper, Phd >> Richland Statistics >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin Simpson" < >> gavin.simp...@ucl.ac.uk> >> To: "Bert Gunter" <gunter.ber...@gene.com> >> Cc: <r-help@r-project.org> >> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:57 AM >> Subject: Re: [R] Why software fails in scientific research >> >> >> On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 11:17 -0700, Bert Gunter wrote: >>> >>>> Just one small additional note below ... >>>> >>>> Bert Gunter >>>> Genentech Nonclinical Biostatistics >>>> >>>> >>>> "But a lot of academics are not going to "waste" their time documenting >>>> code >>>> >>>> properly, so others can reap the benefits of it. They would rather get >>>> on >>>> with >>>> the next project, to get the next paper. " >>>> >>>> >>>> -- Indeed. My personal experience over 3 decades in industrial (private) >>>> research is that data analysis is viewed as relatively >>>> unimportant/straightforward/pedestrian and is left to technicians (or >>>> postdocs) -- often with what is done being largely dictated by the >>>> conventions of a particular journal or discipline. The lab heads and >>>> research directors are responsible for the grand research strategies, >>>> managing resources, etc. and don't want to waste much time on something >>>> that >>>> routine. So worrying about reproducibility of data analysis "code" (if >>>> there >>>> is any, given the use of GUI software like Excel) falls beneath their >>>> radar. >>>> >>>> Clearly there are disciplines (e.g. ecology?) where this may NOT be the >>>> case. >>>> >>> >>> If ecology is anything to go by (and I am an ecologist, sort of, just >>> about), there is a large body of the community doing things because i) >>> that is how they've always been done, or ii) because that's what >>> reviewers/editors expect etc. with a much smaller group of researchers >>> pushing at the boundaries (of their field) to use techniques >>> statisticians and the like have been using for a very long time. >>> >>> Reproducible research is still very much in the (very, very) small >>> minority of the work I come across reviewing papers etc. But I am >>> encouraged by the number of people I know who are starting to use tools >>> like R to conduct their research. >>> >>> -- Bert >>>> >>> >>> G >>> >>> -- >>> %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% >>> Dr. Gavin Simpson [t] +44 (0)20 7679 0522 >>> ECRC, UCL Geography, [f] +44 (0)20 7679 0565 >>> Pearson Building, [e] gavin.simpsonATNOSPAMucl.ac.uk >>> Gower Street, London [w] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucfagls/ >>> UK. WC1E 6BT. [w] http://www.freshwaters.org.uk >>> %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> R-help@r-project.org mailing list >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >>> PLEASE do read the posting guide >>> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >>> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >>> >>> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help@r-project.org mailing list >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide >> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >> > > > -- > Thomas E Adams > National Weather Service > Ohio River Forecast Center > 1901 South State Route 134 > Wilmington, OH 45177 > > EMAIL: thomas.ad...@noaa.gov > > VOICE: 937-383-0528 > FAX: 937-383-0033 > > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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