On 03/ 1/10 12:23 AM, Sharpie wrote:
John Maindonald wrote:
I came across this notice of an upcoming webinar. The issues identified
in the
first paragraph below seem to me exactly those that the R project is
designed
to address. The claim that "most research software is barely fit for
purpose
compared to equivalent systems in the commercial world" seems to me not
quite accurate! Comments!
There's probably a lot of truth in those comments.
Generally speaking, publishing results gets rewards in terms of promotion,
salary etc. Having your code well documented, in revision control systems does
not. I don't think any amount of
I personally feel that a lot of this is a result of failing to publish the
code that was developed to perform research along with the results of the
research. When setting out to do start a new project, one can dig up tons
of journal articles that will happily inform how data was gathered, what
equations were used and wrap it all up with nicely formatted tables and
graphs that show X is correlated to Y.
What these articles fail to report is the code that was developed to filter
and process the raw data and then apply the equations to produce the figures
and tables. The next generation of researchers that are seeking to extend
the results then end up writing their own code rather than building upon
what has already been done.
But unless code is well documented, its often quicker to start from scratch
anyway.
The R community has done a tremendous job in encouraging truly reproducible
research through the package system and tools like Sweave which provide a
means to combine and maintain data, code and reports-- but we need more.
In my opinion, we need to start seeing websites that provide services
similar to github or bitbucket-- but with a focus on scientific research. I
should be able to set up a versioned repository somewhere in the cloud for
my research projects that hosts not only my code, but my data and reports.
I could then choose to make this resource publicly available and other
researchers could fork my work with a single mouse click and start
collaborating on my project or extend what I've done into a project of their
own.
But a lot of academics are not going to "waste" their time documenting code
properly, so others can reap the benefits of it. They would rather get on with
the next project, to get the next paper.
FTP sites have existed for years. If people want to make their data analysis
code available, it is not hard. But I think it would need a change of attitude
more than any technical advance.
And that's my two cents on the state of software in research.
-Charlie
And there is my two pennies!
Dave
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