@ Gabriel: "Avoid tilde in file names": Not quite. A tilde *suffix* is commonly used by *nix editors for backup files https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/76189/what-does-the-tilde-mean-at-the-end-of-a-filename
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 2:43 AM Kurt Hornik <kurt.hor...@wu.ac.at> wrote: > >>>>> Duncan Murdoch writes: > > With c76695 in the trunk, we now only tilde expand file names starting > with a tilde also when using readline. > > Best > -k > > > On 11/06/2019 4:34 p.m., William Dunlap via R-devel wrote: > >> Note that R treats tildes in file names differently on Windows and > Linux. > >> On Windows, it is only replaced if it it at the beginning of the line > and > >> is followed by a forward or backward slash or end-of-line. On Linux it > is > >> replaced no matter where it is in the text and ~someUser will be > replaced > >> by someUser's home directory (if 'someUser' is a user with a home > >> directory). > > > That's not quite true: On Linux the bug is in the code that uses > > libreadline, which you don't have to use. If you just specify > > "--no-readline" when you start R, it will be fine on Linux, as far as I > > can see. > > > I wouldn't choose that as the default way to run R (it's pretty > > irritating not to have readline support), but it is a workaround for > > this bug. > > > Duncan Murdoch > > >> > >> Hence, if you have a Windows machine that can look at the file system on > >> your Linux machine you can use file.rename on Windows to change the > names. > >> My inclination would be to use a bash script on Linux to change the > names, > >> but if you are not comfortable with bash try the Windows approach. > >> > >> Bill Dunlap > >> TIBCO Software > >> wdunlap tibco.com > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:13 PM Frank Schwidom <schwi...@gmx.net> > wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Gabriel, > >>> > >>> I actually want to make renames over thousands of files. But if I am > not > >>> able to express the source filename of the rename operation I will not > be > >>> able to get the work done. Besides the fact that there are issues I > think > >>> that R is qualified for solving my problem by the method how it can > handle > >>> long vectors of strings, booleans and also lists. > >>> > >>> Kind regards, > >>> Frank > >>> > >>> On 2019-06-11 09:49:17, Gabriel Becker wrote: > >>>> Hi Frank, > >>>> I'm hesitant to be "that guy", but in case no one else has brought > >>> this up > >>>> to you, having files with a tilde in their names (generally but > >>> especially > >>>> on a linux system, where ~ in file names has a very important special > >>>> meaning in some cases, as we know) strikes me as an exceptionally bad > >>>> practice anyway. In light of that, the solution with the smallest > >>> amount > >>>> of pain for you is almost surely to just... not do that. Your > >>> filenames > >>>> will be better for it anyway. > >>>> There is a reason no one has complained about this before, and while I > >>>> haven't run a study or anything, I strongly suspect its that > >>> "everyone" > >>>> else is already on the "no tildes in filenames" bandwagon, so this > >>>> behavior, even if technically a bug, has no ability to cause them > >>>> problems. > >>>> Best, > >>>> ~G > >>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Frank Schwidom <[1]schwi...@gmx.net> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> yes, I have seen this package and it has the same tilde expanding > >>>> problem. > >>>> > >>>> Please excuse me I will cc this answer to r-help and r-devel to > >>> keep the > >>>> discussion running. > >>>> > >>>> Kind regards, > >>>> Frank Schwidom > >>>> > >>>> On 2019-06-11 09:12:36, Gábor Csárdi wrote: > >>>> > Just in case, have you seen the fs package? > >>>> > [2]https://fs.r-lib.org/ > >>>> > > >>>> > Gabor > >>>> > > >>>> > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:51 AM Frank Schwidom <[3] > >>> schwi...@gmx.net> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > > > >>>> > > Hi, > >>>> > > > >>>> > > to get rid of any possible filename modification I started a > >>> little > >>>> project to cover my usecase: > >>>> > > > >>>> > > [4]https://github.com/schwidom/simplefs > >>>> > > > >>>> > > This is my first R package, suggestions and a review are > >>> welcome. > >>>> > > > >>>> > > Thanks in advance > >>>> > > Frank Schwidom > >>>> > > > >>>> > > On 2019-06-07 09:04:06, Richard O'Keefe wrote: > >>>> > > > How can expanding tildes anywhere but the beginning of a > >>> file > >>>> name NOT be > >>>> > > > considered a bug? > >>>> > > > On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 23:04, Ivan Krylov > >>>> <[1][5]krylov.r...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 18:07:15 +0200 > >>>> > > > Frank Schwidom <[2][6]schwi...@gmx.net> wrote: > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > +> path.expand("a ~ b") > >>>> > > > > [1] "a /home/user b" > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > How can I switch off any file crippling activity? > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > It doesn't seem to be possible if readline is enabled and > >>>> works > >>>> > > > correctly. > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > Calls to path.expand [1] end up [2] in R_ExpandFileName > >>> [3], > >>>> which > >>>> > > > calls R_ExpandFileName_readline [4], which uses > >>> libreadline > >>>> function > >>>> > > > tilde_expand [5]. tilde_expand seems to be designed to > >>> expand > >>>> '~' > >>>> > > > anywhere in the string it is handed, i.e. operate on > >>> whole > >>>> command > >>>> > > > lines, not file paths. > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > I am taking the liberty of Cc-ing R-devel in case this > >>> can be > >>>> > > > considered a bug. > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > -- > >>>> > > > Best regards, > >>>> > > > Ivan > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > [1] > >>>> > > > > >>>> [3][7] > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807 > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > [2] > >>>> > > > > >>>> [4][8] > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915 > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > [3] > >>>> > > > > >>>> [5][9] > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147 > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > [4] > >>>> > > > > >>>> [6][10] > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494 > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > [5] > >>>> > > > > >>>> [7][11] > >>> > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187 > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > ______________________________________________ > >>>> > > > [8][12]r-h...@r-project.org mailing list -- To > >>> UNSUBSCRIBE > >>>> and more, see > >>>> > > > [9][13]https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > >>>> > > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > >>>> > > > [10][14]http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > >>>> > > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, > >>> reproducible > >>>> code. > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > References > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > Visible links > >>>> > > > 1. mailto:[15]krylov.r...@gmail.com > >>>> > > > 2. mailto:[16]schwi...@gmx.net > >>>> > > > 3. > >>>> [17] > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807 > >>>> > > > 4. > >>>> [18] > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915 > >>>> > > > 5. > >>>> [19] > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147 > >>>> > > > 6. > >>>> [20] > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494 > >>>> > > > 7. > >>>> [21] > >>> > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187 > >>>> > > > 8. mailto:[22]r-h...@r-project.org > >>>> > > > 9. 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