I would like to bring up two issues concerning C++11.
First, the R-devel manuals contain incorrect statements regarding C++11: i) R-exts.texi: Although there is a 2011 version of the C++ standard, it is not yet fully implemented (nor is it likely to be widely available for some years) and portable C++ code needs to follow the 1998 standard (and not use features from C99). ii) R-ints.texi: The type `R_xlen_t' is made available to packages in C header `Rinternals.h': this should be fine in C code since C99 is required. People do try to use R internals in C++, but C++98 compilers are not required to support these types (and there are currently no C++11 compilers). But since the summer we have g++ and clang with working C++11 implementations: iii) g++ implements C++11: http://isocpp.org/blog/2013/05/gcc-4.8.1-released-c11-feature-complete iv) llvm/clang++ implements C++11: http://isocpp.org/blog/2013/06/llvm-3.3-is-released I would suggest to change the wording prior to the release of R 3.1.0 next year as it is likely that even Microsoft will by then have a fully-conformant compiler (per Herb Sutter at a recent talk in Chicago). If it helped, I would be glad to provide minimal patches to the two .texi files. Moreover, the C++ Standards Group is working towards closing the delta between standards being adopted, and compilers being released. They expect corresponding compilers for C++14 (a "patch" release for C++11 expected to be ready next spring) to be available within a year---possibly during 2014. Second, the current R Policy regarding C++11 is unnecessarily strict. I would propose to treat the availability of C++11 extensions more like the availability of OpenMP: something which configure can probe at build time, and which can be deployed later via suitable #ifdef tests. As a proof of concept, I added this macro from the autoconf archive to the m4/ directory of R-devel: http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf-archive/ax_cxx_compile_stdcxx_11.html and made a one-line change to configure.ac (indented two spaces just for email) edd@max:~/svn/r-devel$ svn di configure.ac Index: configure.ac =================================================================== --- configure.ac (revision 64031) +++ configure.ac (working copy) @@ -906,6 +906,7 @@ AC_LANG_PUSH(C++) AC_OPENMP +AX_CXX_COMPILE_STDCXX_11(noext) AC_LANG_POP(C++) ### *** ObjC compiler edd@max:~/svn/r-devel$ After running 'aclocal -Im4; autoheader; autoconf', the configure test then properly detected C++11 (or, in one case, C++0x) on four different compilers: [ g++-4.7 case, Ubuntu 13.04 ] checking whether g++ supports C++11 features by default... no checking whether g++ supports C++11 features with -std=c++11... no checking whether g++ supports C++11 features with -std=c++0x... yes [ CC=clang CXX=clang++ (3.1), Ubuntu 13.04 ] checking whether clang++ accepts -M for generating dependencies... yes checking for clang++ option to support OpenMP... unsupported checking whether clang++ supports C++11 features by default... no checking whether clang++ supports C++11 features with -std=c++11... yes [ g++-4.8 case, Debian testing ] checking whether g++ supports C++11 features by default... no checking whether g++ supports C++11 features with -std=c++11... yes [ CC=clang CXX=clang++ (3.2), Debian testing ] checking whether clang++ supports C++11 features by default... no checking whether clang++ supports C++11 features with -std=c++11... yes It would be easy to another #define to config.h.in. And of course, I understand that R Core is comprised primarily of C programmers. But to those of us who lean more towards C++ than C, the step towards C++11 is a big one, and a very exciting one. More and more upstream authors are considering right now whether to switch to C++11-only. I expect such switches to become more common as time pass. C++11 provides a lot -- and preventing programmers from using these tools cannot be in our interest. I think that the timing of the next R release will be a good opportunity to permit use of C++11 where compilers support it -- as a wide range of sites will already be capable of deploying it. Thanks, Dirk -- Dirk Eddelbuettel | e...@debian.org | http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com ______________________________________________ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel