> Oops, lost a bit too much context when I changed the thread title.
> 
> This discussion started with Barry looking for a "smoke test" that
> would be quick enough to run that more people would be willing to use
> it to pick up gratuitous breakage due to a bad merge rather than
> leaving it for the buildbots to discover.

Then many people will start running the "smoke test" rather than the
whole suite, which will create new kinds of problems. It's IMO a bad
idea. Let Barry learn about "-j" :)

> Currently even "make quicktest" takes too long to run to be suitable
> for that task. Leaving out a couple more egregiously slow tests and
> possibly updating it to use the "-j" switch might make for a usable
> option.

"-j" will precisely help cover the duration of these long tests. By the
way, you should use a higher "-j" number than you have CPUs, since some
tests spend most of their time sleeping and waiting.

"make quicktest" already skips test_io and test_socket, which test
fundamental parts of Python. I would vote for removing "make quicktest"
rather than promote such a questionable command.

Regards

Antoine.


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