That could be good. :) And sometimes standards are rubber stamped by other bodies.
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 12:03 PM Paul Bryan <pbr...@anode.ca> wrote: > What if PSF were to undertake codifying a language specification? > > On Fri, 2021-02-12 at 11:57 -0800, Dan Stromberg wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 11:02 AM Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev < > python-dev@python.org> wrote: > > How a standard by ANSI, ECMA and/or ISO is any better than a standard by > the PSF? > > I don't think what the PSF is producing is truly a standard. > > Is PSF bad at "controlling its growth and avoiding featuritis" in your > opinion or smth? > > It's not the PSF I have an issue with. It's having a reference > implementation. > > I think the PSF has done a pretty good job of keeping in mind what other > Python implementations can realistically do also - but doing so is an > uphill battle. > > I believe Python needs to become more independent of CPython, for Python's > long term health. > > Think of C. Where would it be if it had K&R C as a reference > implementation, long term? There are dozens, maybe hundreds of > mostly-compatible implementations of C. I think this should be Python's > goal. > > Look where not having a standard got Perl. It is so defined by a single > implementation that the language is collapsing under its own weight. Perl > 6 is so not-perl that it was renamed. Python is much less guilty of > exuberant design, that's part of what I like about Python, but like I said, > having a reference implementation instead of a standard makes that more > difficult. > > On 12.02.2021 21:33, Dan Stromberg wrote: > > > What would it take to create an ANSI, ECMA and/or ISO standard for Python? > > It seems to have really helped C. > > It looks like Java isn't standardized, and it's done OK, though perhaps it > was healthier in the past - before Oracle decided API's were ownable. > > I think standardizing Python might be really good for controlling its > growth and avoiding featuritis. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > python-dev-leave@python.orghttps://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ > Message archived at > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/JZYW4JOTANYIOLYDQ6YHRUP2TWO52OAE/ > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ > Message archived at > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/7WXKZFTLABA7L63LRWVVCLCEHZ5NDGRO/ > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > > >
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