Reuben ua Bríġ writes:
> > Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 15:28:49 +0200
> > From: Ingo Schwarze <[email protected]>
>
> > I literally spent years of my life improving that.
>
> and im sure it is much better for it.
>
> ...
>
> good on em.  why is it easier to get third party binaries than the
> openbsd source?  the whole reason i use openbsd is for the source, yet
> folks just seem to keep trying to make source harder to get at.

I have been a bit of a loudmouth on this and other OpenBSD lists
before so I've stepped back to cool down but I can't leave this one
be, this is just ridiculous. OpenBSD doesn't make sources available?
The documentation is poor? What the hell are you smoking? Keep it.

I would also like to call out Ingo Schwarze as being a fantastic
example of how to deal with commentators from the peanut gallery
(including myself iirc). Despite his significant and largely unthanked
work being directly impugned he has nevertheless taken the time to
repeatedly and patienty deal with a complainer who is frankly not
listening and in general being an obnoxious little tit, and still
finds a way to turn it all into a positive contribution.

OpenBSD makes the source for everything it builds available. It is
built for developers who want to hack on it and with it, and
(surprise!) they need its sources. The means of getting them are,
for the benefit of those (potential) developers, documented in many
places including the best set of manpages in any open source community
(see also postgres) as well as OpenBSD's FAQs and its other texts.

I have nothing to actually add to this discussion so </rant> but
thank you OpenBSD for making for me for free a fantastic playground
for programming in (with extraordinary documentation) and Reuben,
take a leaf out of my book: Shut up and hack.

Matthew

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