Dale F. Victor wrote:
> On Sunday 19 July 2009 12:25:31 am Bill Barry wrote:
>   
>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Dale F. Victor<[email protected]> wrote:
>>     
>>> On Friday 17 July 2009 10:25:46 am Bill Barry wrote:
>>>       
>>>> What is the evidence that it is really the motherboard and not the power
>>>> supply or the fan or something else?
>>>>         
>>> All I have to go by is what people tell me. A company up north (I forget
>>> their name) said they repaired it by doing something to the bios. I got
>>> the computer back and it worked twice and then the old problem was back.
>>> I callled them and was told to take the battery out. This worked once.
>>>       
>> Do you mean that you took the battery out and put it back in and
>> booted, or just left the battery out and booted without it? If you
>> haven't done that, it would be worth trying, just take the battery out
>> and boot with just the wall wart, it could be a bad battery problem.
>>
>>     
>>> When the computer turns off it does so before anything comes to the
>>> screen.
>>>       
>> So you can't get to the bios. That's too bad.  Does it beep?
>>     
> No it does not get that far.
>   
>> It could well be a motherboard problem, but it still might be some
>> kind of power problem. The battery could be causing problems, or the
>> wall wart is in trouble or ?, and as soon as the system needs a little
>> more power during the boot, like for spinning up the hard disk, it
>> kicks off.  Do you hear the hard disk start spinning?
>>     
> It immediately makes a noise but I do not know if it is the hard drive or the 
> fan, or both as it does move air. I bought a new power brick and a new 
> battery and that changed nothing. I just tried to start it up as it has been 
> some time and it actually makes noise for about 2 - 3 seconds before it shuts 
> down, turns off. This is on wall power with the new brick and the battery out 
> of the machine.
>
> Thanks for sticking with me.
>
> Dale
>   
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My two cents:  This sounds like my last two failures of my corporate 
laptops, both times it was the hard drive.  Got a knoppix disk you can 
boot from?  That will at least tell you the motherboard and the power 
supply are OK.

Glenn
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