On Sunday 26 May 2013 18:07:14 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Sunday 26 May 2013 00:05:56 Marco Martin wrote: > > On Saturday 25 May 2013 14:32:29 Martin Graesslin wrote: > > > > And this is clearly the case let's work around something we don't want > > > > to > > > > fix. Switches are a clear improvement over checkboxes depending on the > > > > context even my 60yo mom got it much quickier than a checkbox would be > > > > able > > > > to on my plasmoids. > > > > > > And I would completely fail to use the switch. I have huge problems > > > understanding those switches and I have not seen any implementation of > > > the > > > switch where I got which one is on and which one is off. > > > > that's for me as well. > > I have to spend a second or more every time to figure/remember if the "on" > > that is written on the switch (or being colored vs greyed, same thing) > > means "it's on now" or "it's an action, so it's telling me it becomes on > > if i click on it" > > Well actually, there is an easy way to make it absolutely clear which is > which, although it takes lots of horizontal space and probably looks very > ugly if you have many switches in the same UI: Just add text labels on each > side, _next to_ the button, not inside of it. E.g. "OFF" or "O" on the left > side, "ON" or "I" on the right side. That makes things perfectly clear. Yes, it does. That clearly would work for me. As I mentioned in one of the replies if I see both states with a label, I am able to recognize what means on and what means off. As mentioned I found exactly one switch similar to the touch switches in my flat and it has distinct labels and I never failed to use that one ;-) > So if ambiguity is the only reason against using switches on Desktop, we > should use them. At least for me there is another reason: given the way how the switch component is designed (again no matter which one) I am inclined to drag it from left to right. I don't try to click, I have to drag. There is no visual hint that clicking would adjust the state. It doesn't look like a clickable button. This makes the component really difficult to use. While on a touch screen it's much easier to use than a check box.
Now I could learn to click (so far I failed to do so), but I can think of many people who would no longer be able to learn this. Cheers Martin _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
