> On Nov. 26, 2012, 9:35 a.m., Marco Martin wrote:
> > This is really an issue that needs addressing, thanks for taking time for 
> > it.
> > 
> > i'm very in favor of removing all those hardcoded sizes from the code.
> > 
> > however i see two problems with that approach
> > 
> > 1) icons are cleanly painted only when they have a size that is the "right" 
> > one (16,22,32,48,64,128,512 exported in qml with theme.smallIconSize, 
> > smallMediumIconSize etc)  for big sizes doesn't matter if the pixmap ends 
> > up being scaled, but small icons really look horrible when scaled (and in 
> > the new code there is no check the size ends up being one of those).
> > 
> > 2) it's anyways quite arbitrary, so i can easily see each plasmoid using 
> > more or less its own logic, with the end result looking a bit like a 
> > patchwork.
> > 
> > the"proper" solution i think is to export in Theme the configurable 
> > KIconLoader sizes, (Desktop, Toolbar, SmallIcons etc)   and those can be 
> > controlled by a kcm, so will be properly set on higher resolution displays
> 
> Marco Martin wrote:
>     just added the bindings:
>     use
>     theme.iconSizes.dialog for most icons
>     theme.iconSizes.toolbar for unmount
>     theme.iconSizes.small for all that is normally 16x16
>     
>     
>     so the icon settings in systemsettings will affect those icons
> 
> Michael Zanetti wrote:
>     Hey Marco,
>     
>     I'm not sure if this is really a good idea. Using KIconLoader::IconSize() 
> is a good idea for toolbars and such. However, in a plasma layout I don't 
> think its a good idea to let the user change the size of the icons. It can 
> and will mess up the layout. For example I use the same size for "Toolbar" 
> and "Dialog" because I like big toolbars. I certainly don't want to the 
> unmount icon to be that huge in the devicemanager plasmoid because if that...
>     
>     regarding the scaling: I was thinking that Plasma uses SVG icons... 
> Reading throught the QIconItem code I see now that it doesn't. In that case 
> its obviously not good to freely scale it around. Maybe it should be replaced 
> by PlasmaCore.SvgItem?
> 
> Marco Martin wrote:
>     what is important is that the sizes of the icons are something that is
>     a) consistent everywhere (not having each applet decide with its criteria)
>     b) be something that can depend from dpi, those being settable are fine, 
> since will be the same as things around application
>     
>     now, indeed can be not a good idea to have the unmount icon as toolbar, 
> since the size can be messed up (so keeping a size relative to the size used 
> to the main icon, that i think dialog is ok)
>     
>     This i think makes the case for exposing a currently internal component 
> that i'm using in buttons and toolbuttons called IconLoader
>     the behavior is:
>     * use an svg if it does exist in the theme: requiring to have a complete 
> svg theme (and with enough quality) is neither feasible nor desiderable
>     * fallback to a qicon if the svg is not found
>     * always paint in the nearest (smaller) kiconloader standard size (even 
> for svg, for consistency in layouts and because they aren't as scalable as 
> they seem, if their shape edges are not grid aligned they look horrible)
>     * will probably also have to directly support the on mouse over highlight 
> animation or people will keep using the horrible PlasmaWidgets.IconWidget
>
> 
> Jacopo De Simoi wrote:
>     Hi Michael,
>       
>       indeed I can well see your point. Using a fraction of the size of the 
> dialog icon might be so-so (in fact the ratio 22/32 is quite unique in our 
> icons, it would basically be good just for the current setting.).The best 
> looking (although horrible code-wise) thing to do would probably be to cook 
> up a map from the size of a device icon to the size of an action icon 
> (without worrying about rounding issues); for instance we would have: 32 -> 
> 22; 48 -> 32; 64 -> 48. Same thing for the emblems, we would need 32 -> 16; 
> 48 -> 22; 64 -> 32.
>     What do you think?  Marco? 
>
> 
> Michael Zanetti wrote:
>     What IMHO would be really needed is to extend KIconloader:
>     
>     a) deprecate the enum KIconLoader::StdSizes asap as it shouln't be used 
> ever again
>     b) create a replacement for it in the form of: "int 
> KIconLoader::standardSize(Small | Medium | Large | whatnot)" that returns a 
> pixelsizes that is calculated using the DPIs
>     
>     Then this could be used whereever we need non-user-configurable 
> standardized icon sizes. What do you guys think?

a) is something that i would probably like, but it's a frameworks5 thing i 
think.
it can be done in the plasma theme bindings tough

aaanyways, I've now finished a new component called PlasmaCore.IconItem that 
will among other things render icons always of a "proper" size.
so icons in the device notifier can be replaced with that.

then i would say still use the "dialog" size for icons in the devicenotifier.
like in the patch, the unmount icon can become a ratio of the main icon, like 
80%, and will be rendered to the largest possible standard size.


- Marco


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On Nov. 23, 2012, 10:11 p.m., Michael Zanetti wrote:
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> (Updated Nov. 23, 2012, 10:11 p.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for Plasma and Kai Uwe Broulik.
> 
> 
> Description
> -------
> 
> This adjustst the DeviceNotifier Plasmoid to scale nicely with high 
> resolution screens.
> 
> The patch changes also one label from wordWrapping to clipping behavior 
> because otherwise it messes up the layout.
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
>   plasma/generic/applets/devicenotifier/package/contents/ui/ActionItem.qml 
> 3087a07 
>   plasma/generic/applets/devicenotifier/package/contents/ui/DeviceItem.qml 
> 1fab0ef 
>   
> plasma/generic/applets/devicenotifier/package/contents/ui/devicenotifier.qml 
> f8728d0 
> 
> Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/107428/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> Tested on High res screen at full DPI and at regular DPI values
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Michael Zanetti
> 
>

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