A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 15:29:37 Alex Fiestas escreveu: > On Tuesday 13 November 2012 14:41:24 Marco Martin wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > Most users regularly use less than a dozen applications, and same idea > > > can > > > probably be applied to activities I think (it is ok to keep an activity > > > I > > > created 9month ago for a travel I did to Rome, it is not ok to have it > > > in > > > the interface every time I want to change activity). > > > > > > In another topic, something I specially like from homerun is its "Show > > > all > > > apps" view: > > > http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/13/plasma-desktopb11622.png > > > > well, the first thing that comes to my mind looking at that is... where is > > waldo? :p > > Exactly the same feeling with kickoff or tree based menus, the difference is > that by having everything into the same place you don't have to make > "attempts" on knowing in which page waldo is xD
so you are comparing bad with worse... not to defend kickoff that traditionaly I hate, but at least in kickoff i find waldo in the area that stores waldo like apps.. but the main problem is.. they bowth suck, can i just ask "were is waldo?" bummm done... > > > why? several reasons, not all of them solvable: > > * question of quantity: when more than a given number of items is shown at > > the same time, as already explained the brain goes in linear scan mode > > > > * everything is at the same importance: there are tons of entries, some > > may > > be very important (browser, calligra..) and some rarely needed, if ever > > (amor... srsly? :P) > > > > * icons are not designed to be presented in huge quantity: explicit > > guideline of oxygen: application icons don't have much common style that > > recreases the visual noise when shown in a grid (as opposed to for > > instance > > mimetypes) > > > > This suggests there are two separate problems: > > 1) we have a ton of stuff right now that gets listed as applications that > > probably shouldn't even be there or, we should at least have a way to tell > > apart core applications from "small littering stuff" > > > > 2) a view that lists stuff should always try to show not much stuff at > > once, maybe be resizable, but be small (in resulting centimiters on > > screen, not pixels) by default for the two reasons of distance travelled > > by mouse and being able to get the whole list as a single glance > > > > > It made me realize that right now with kickoff we are adding a huge > > > complexity to find (with the mouse) what you are looking for because you > > > not only have to remember the icon or the name, but you also have to > > > remember the category. > > > > yep, hate representations in trees ;) > > i'm usually for a single level more "tagging" approach, but by default we > > should try to produce lists fairly small > > Well you know (and you can see in the bottom of that screenshot) that I use > a dock style thingy so I have a set of 12 app's mostly always opened so I > hardly use this menu (or krunner for that matter). > > There are only a few times where I have to use something else to launch > applications: > > -I need to execute an already installed app but barelly used > -Calligra -- new document > -LibreOffice -- new document > -systemsettings -- change a setting > -I need to execute a recently installed app (most package installers allow > you to execute the app just after installing it) > -Want to set an app as a "launcher" because I have started to use it a lot > > From the mentioned above, I did the "recently installed" a week ago for > Steam, and past that I can't remember the last time I executed something > that was not in my favorie list (dock). > _______________________________________________ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
