> On Nov. 1, 2011, 2:05 p.m., Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > libs/taskmanager/taskactions.cpp, line 384
> > <http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103004/diff/1/?file=39919#file39919line384>
> >
> >     we have a name, it should be used. it hardly matters what the eventual 
> > Launcher is called. shortening it with the removal of "It Is" is probably 
> > alright ("computer application english" :)
> 
> Craig Drummond wrote:
>     "Show A Launcher for Systemsettings When It is Not Running" is a *very* 
> long menu item. What advantage does adding the name here give? The user 
> already right-clicked on the taskbar entry - so they know what the item is. 
> Placing its name here just adds extra noise. In fact I'd actually prefer just 
> "Pin To Taskbar" and "Unpin From Taskbar"
> 
> Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>     a) it tells the user what is (likely) to happen with the launcher; as it 
> doesn't actually relate directly to the window itself, this is useful 
> information .. particularly as many times you can't even see the name of the 
> application in the task widget button, so have nothing to really reference 
> visually.
>     
>     b) "pin" has got to be one of the worst bits of new jargon that has come 
> with docks. in my testing with run-of-the-mill users not used to docks they 
> tend to fail with complete reliability at explaining what it will do
>     
>     it could be shortened to just "Show a launcher for <name>" though?

I still disagree with adding the name. We dont have "Close <name>", "Minimise 
<name>". So why is "Show A Launcher" any different?


> On Nov. 1, 2011, 2:05 p.m., Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > libs/taskmanager/taskactions.cpp, lines 508-510
> > <http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103004/diff/1/?file=39919#file39919line508>
> >
> >     there's a line between "simplifiying" and "making it useless in too 
> > many cases" that this crosses imho. this would have me reaching for the 
> > window titlebar in too many cases.
> >     
> >     i would be in favour of renaming "Advanced" (a word we are trying to 
> > get away from) with something like "More actions"
> 
> Craig Drummond wrote:
>     hehe! knew this would get some reactions. Its only an option anyway. 
> Perhaps it would be better if the user could supply a mask of items they did 
> *not* want in the basic menu? Then it's up to the taskbar applet to decide 
> what to show?
> 
> Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>     sounds like a great recipe for inconsistency, poor choices and the 
> creation of new user-facing options. i'd really like to avoid it. coming to a 
> good compromise situation that works well enough for everyone should be 
> possible.

In the next diff I've removed the 'simple' option. It needs more thought. Plus, 
it might be better to just re-think the context menu so that there is no need 
for a 'simple' mode.


- Craig


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On Oct. 31, 2011, 8:40 p.m., Craig Drummond wrote:
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> (Updated Oct. 31, 2011, 8:40 p.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for Plasma.
> 
> 
> Description
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> 
> 1. Add NewInstance action to launch a new instance of an application.
> 2. Move toggle launcher action out of advanced menu.
> 3. Don't show application name in 'Show A Launcher' action, as might not know 
> the real name at this time (e.g. no desktop file read).
> 4. Add application actions, to be shown at the top of the right-click menu. 
> IconTasks uses this to show recent docuents, dock manager menu items, and 
> unity items.
> 5. A ToolTipMenu class is created, so that tooltips may be give for menu 
> items. This is so that IconTasks can display the full path of a documents in 
> the recent documents menu.
> 6. Add option to have only basic window controls in menu.
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
>   libs/taskmanager/taskactions.h 2b5a641 
>   libs/taskmanager/taskactions.cpp 0e6ba8e 
>   libs/taskmanager/taskactions_p.h 913966c 
> 
> Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103004/diff/diff
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Craig Drummond
> 
>

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