Hello,

On 07/18/2004 10:21 PM, Curt Zirzow wrote:
For SMTP, all lines should be ended with CR+LF, or else messages may be discarded by spam filters or other programs. However, if you use the mail() function it may do some filtering on its own.


The mail() function does not do any filtering.

Read the source first to learn more about it.


I have read it, and am very familiar with it.

Every time there is a post about mail() and the person is
unfamiliar with properly sending SMTP headers or data to sendmail,
You  *claim* its a bug with php's mail() call without knowing
what version of php they are using. You never ask if they are using
windows which uses php's built in sendmail tool.  Nor do you never
ask what MTA that sendmail is really representing.

If you pay more attention you may notice that I always say that it *sounds* like a PHP bug. I am not even saying that is necessarily a PHP bug.


what ever you are trying to say about it being a bug or not, it is
one of the worst ways i've ever seen anyone try to plug their site.

Wanting or not, the PHP mail() function alone always had many, many bugs, as you may see here:


http://bugs.php.net/search.php?cmd=display&status=All&bug_type%5B%5D=Mail+related

Anyway, I was wondering why would you bother to fight my explanations with so much persistence. In the beginning, it seemed that you were not really aware of the problems, but then you finally revealed yourself when you showed when you said it upsets you that I am one of those people that "that try to plug their site".

A quick search in Google for your name and it lead to this page.

http://pear.php.net/user/curt

Hey, you are a PEAR zealot! Now it makes all the sense of the world that you do not want me to lead people to the PHP Classes site. It seems you are one of those people that think of the PHP Classes site as a competitor of PEAR. I would not be surprised if you would enjoy if one day the PHP Classes site was shutdown so PEAR did not have any competitors!

Man, relax. The PHP Classes site was not developed to compete with PEAR. As a matter of fact the PHP Classes site was created before PEAR with the specific intention to help me share many of my own classes so they could get as many testing as possible, helping me to improve them with bug reports and feature suggestions of their users.

That is my benefit from bothering to spend so much time developing Open Source code and providing support to people that present problems that can be solved with classes that I wrote.

I don't know if this interests you, but some time ago I gave an interview to a russian PHP magazine regarding the PHP Classes, its history and initiatives:

http://www.phpinside.net/docs/mlemos.html

So, it certainly does not bother that PEAR zealots and friends come to the mailing lists and help people recommending PEAR components that solve their problems, why does it bother that I come here and do the same suggesting components that I wrote that happen to be made available in the PHP Classes site (or not)?

One suggestion: get over it. Better, if you have written any useful classes that could solve other people's problems, feel free to submit them to the PHP Classes site, even if you have contributed them to PEAR as well, and benefit from the feedback and recognition that you may get from sharing your work to the currently 170,000 subscribers of the site. Several PEAR related classes have been published there already.

http://www.phpclasses.org/pear

If you have written something innovating, you may even be nominated to the Innovation Award getting more recognition and prizes every month.

http://www.phpclasses.org/award/innovation

I am serious, welcome aboard!

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