Well said, Godfrey.

I well remember a heated argument I had with a fellow teacher along those lines many years ago. He was adamant that photography could never be art. One could even argue about the type of brush & paint used! And what if the "artist" had to wear glasses?

Alan C

On 22-Jan-23 04:56 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I dunno. Art remains art. An "AI" is just another constructed thing by which 
humans have extended their abilities to influence and manipulate the world we live in. We 
already use automatons to assemble our cars, our toys, our cameras, and run a lot of our 
essential infrastructure. There's really little difference between what is Art directly 
created by human hands and Art that is indirectly created by the minds that humans embue 
their machines with.

Until a definitive test of what constitutes machine intelligence exists, and 
until machines can reliably and consistently pass that test, any Art is the 
result of human artiface and mind regardless of whether it is directly or 
indirectly created.

If you want to put a simple limitation on "what is art" to say that it must be made by 
human hands, well, that is just fine … but most photographs will then be marginally not-art since 
we already rely upon a whole range of machines, of varying levels of "intelligence", to 
produce our photographs.

G
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On Jan 21, 2023, at 6:17 PM, Comcast <[email protected]> wrote:

But it’s happening. AI is now writing as well. Might as well make the best of 
it. However, I’m glad I’ve reached an age where I probably won’t have to 
compete with a robot for my job.

Paul

On Jan 21, 2023, at 8:45 PM, ann sanfedele <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm with you all th way on that , Ralf.

ann

On 1/21/2023 5:47 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
Am 21.01.23 um 22:55 schrieb Henk Terhell:
Thanks Ralph, very funny pictures. I guess this is clever photoshop work,
perhaps even with the assistance of a new AI picture generator.
More of such fantasy work will be our future.
Really? The idea of living in a world where you have to keep wondering
if art is genuine or AI generated gives me the creeps.

Ralf
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