I will go as high as ISO 12800 when shooting birds with the K-1 but prefer 8000 
or less. With TAV mode you can set the upper limit.

Paul

> On Sep 21, 2019, at 11:13 PM, Ken Waller <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Nothing objectionable with the ‘noise’ in that image. Nice catch Larry.
> 
> I suspect part of the success regarding ‘noise’ in that image is the overall 
> brightness to start with. If the overall lighting were darker the noise might 
> become objectionable in the processing trying to bring the detail.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Larry Colen <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: PESOs For the Birds
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2019, at 8:56 PM, Ken Waller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Paul.
>>> I recently started shooting in the TAV mode myself and am looking to find 
>>> an acceptabvle max ISO to shoot with.
>> 
>> I have found that when pushing the performance envelope I’m less likely to 
>> completely lose a shot due to too high an ISO than I am to too low of a 
>> shutter speed.
>> 
>> Here’s one with my K-5, which I was surprised to note after the fact was at 
>> ISO 10,000. To me, the noise looks on par with the grain from Tri-X.
>> 
>> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/9313464692/
>> 
>> full set
>> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634684347823
>> 
>> Another time I was photographing some friends on stage, and in post 
>> processing I noticed that one of the frames as a bit noisy, then I realized 
>> that it was at ISO 25,600
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8366084507/
>> 
>> full set:
>> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632485855236
>> 
>> In short, my feeling is lean on your shutter speed and aperture as hard as 
>> you feel safe, and take what ISO you get.  If the final result is too noisy 
>> to be usable, chances are you would have lost it with a slower shutter speed.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Larry Colen
>> [email protected]
> 
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