Yes and the frequent "shifts" are causing the CVTs to be more
unreliable according to mechanics.

On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Ken Waller <[email protected]> wrote:
> That constant acceleration - lack of shift feel is subjectively seen by some 
> drivers as a negative, so much that some manufacturers have added a shift 
> feel to their CVT transmissions so as to eliminate the constant acceleration 
> feel.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Zos Xavius <[email protected]>
>>Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru
>>
>>My mom has a CVT Nissan Sentra. Its pretty peppy between 0 and 80.
>>What's nice is that once it starts accelerating it doesn't stop. Just
>>smooth acceleration until you take your foot off the pedal.
>>
>>On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:04 PM, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I'd be worried about CVT durability, but for me, the main drawback is the 
>>> driving feel. My 2014 Equinox has an 8-speed automatic, it feels great with 
>>> a peppy 3- liter four, and has been trouble free. Nothing but oil changed 
>>> thus far.
>>>
>>> Paul via phone
>>>
>>>> On Jul 16, 2017, at 10:48 PM, Mark C <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Igor -
>>>>
>>>> I'm certainly happy with Subaru's decision to extend the warranty on their 
>>>> CVT's and to provide retroactive compensation. I don't expect to be using 
>>>> the money for a new lens. I'm pretty happy with the lenses I have - turns 
>>>> out that hanging onto good full frame glass was not a mistake The only 
>>>> lens that I am tempted to replace is the FA 20-35 f4, but I can't get a 
>>>> good handle on its performance on the K1. Sometimes it shines, sometimes 
>>>> it's a dud. It's clearly better (marginally) on film than on the K1 in 
>>>> terms of edge and corner sharpness. It also seems to be better at the long 
>>>> end than at 20mm. I recently fine-tuned the AF - and it needed about 5 
>>>> steps of correction IIRC - so I'm hoping that helps. But I seldom shoot 
>>>> wider than 28mm so I don't feel too motivated to upgrade to the DFA 15-30.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that the reimbursement from Subaru will go into the VW repair 
>>>> fund. My wife's 2009 Tiguan seems to develop a $500 - $1000 problem every 
>>>> 10K or so. In the past year and a half we've replaced the timing chain, 
>>>> PCV system, rear main seal (blew out when the PCV system failed) and water 
>>>> pump. Last Thursday the dealership told me that both rear springs are 
>>>> broken - I need to get that checked out by an independent mechanic. Seems 
>>>> odd that both springs would break at the same time and that the car would 
>>>> still ride just fine.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck with your car search. CVT's are a fact o life these days but 
>>>> they seem to be prone to funky and fatal errors. I would do serious 
>>>> research on any CVT vehicle.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was just thinking about you and your Subaru CVT a few time in the past 
>>>>> week. (We are looking for a car right now.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I am glad to hear that good news. I'd say that's probably an indicator of 
>>>>> Subaru being one of the better manufacturers (behavior-wise). (Even 
>>>>> though they should've admitted their problems much earlier.) And your 
>>>>> local dealership is also among the better once since they've covered 50% 
>>>>> even before this event.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nissan gave us all sort of problems with our CVT (on Rogue) over the past 
>>>>> 9 year, starting from the 1st year.  And both, our dealership and the 
>>>>> corporate office were very bad to address these problems. They were 
>>>>> refusing to admit the problems despite the symptoms, until the 
>>>>> transmission failed completely. And for the 2nd time, they were delaying 
>>>>> admitting the problem it until the mileage was beyond the limit.
>>>>>
>>>>> After almost 20 years of owning Nissans (not exclusively), I am too 
>>>>> afraid to buy any Nissan at this point: all models I would be potentially 
>>>>> interested in have CVTs, and Nissan CVTs are plagued with problems, and 
>>>>> Nissan is bad addressing them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Speaking of "impressive" warranties (mentioned by Alan), - I've just 
>>>>> learned that the "best industry warranty" advertised by Hyundai is to a 
>>>>> large extent a gimmick: Only the 1st owner is eligible for the 10 
>>>>> yrs/100k miles (powertrain) warranty, for the subsequent owners it is 
>>>>> 5yrs/60K.
>>>>> (Additionally, there is practically no "bumper-to-bumper", large portion 
>>>>> of the coverage of the "limited" warranty ends within the 1st year.)
>>>>> Kia's "industry-best" warranty is a similar gimmick.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, - I am glad Mark for you. Despite the headache, at least you 
>>>>> didn't suffer as much of the financial hit...
>>>>>
>>>>> And the most intriguing question (for this list):
>>>>> Are you going to buy some new lens with the unexpected ~$4K?
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Igor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark C Sat, 15 Jul 2017 20:46:26 -0700 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just over a year ago I posted about the failure of my Subaru CVT 
>>>>> transmission, and appreciated the advice I got here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday I received a notice from Subaru that they have retroactively 
>>>>> extended the warranty on the CVT's to 10 years / 100K. The letter 
>>>>> included a claim form to get reimbursement for out of pocket repair costs 
>>>>> for those of us who had their CVT fail. Subaru picked up 50% of the cost 
>>>>> to replace my transmission but I was still out of pocket about $4000 - 
>>>>> good on Subaru to step and cover this problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>
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