That constant acceleration - lack of shift feel is subjectively seen by some 
drivers as a negative, so much that some manufacturers have added a shift feel 
to their CVT transmissions so as to eliminate the constant acceleration feel.


-----Original Message-----
>From: Zos Xavius <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru
>
>My mom has a CVT Nissan Sentra. Its pretty peppy between 0 and 80.
>What's nice is that once it starts accelerating it doesn't stop. Just
>smooth acceleration until you take your foot off the pedal.
>
>On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:04 PM, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I'd be worried about CVT durability, but for me, the main drawback is the 
>> driving feel. My 2014 Equinox has an 8-speed automatic, it feels great with 
>> a peppy 3- liter four, and has been trouble free. Nothing but oil changed 
>> thus far.
>>
>> Paul via phone
>>
>>> On Jul 16, 2017, at 10:48 PM, Mark C <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Igor -
>>>
>>> I'm certainly happy with Subaru's decision to extend the warranty on their 
>>> CVT's and to provide retroactive compensation. I don't expect to be using 
>>> the money for a new lens. I'm pretty happy with the lenses I have - turns 
>>> out that hanging onto good full frame glass was not a mistake The only lens 
>>> that I am tempted to replace is the FA 20-35 f4, but I can't get a good 
>>> handle on its performance on the K1. Sometimes it shines, sometimes it's a 
>>> dud. It's clearly better (marginally) on film than on the K1 in terms of 
>>> edge and corner sharpness. It also seems to be better at the long end than 
>>> at 20mm. I recently fine-tuned the AF - and it needed about 5 steps of 
>>> correction IIRC - so I'm hoping that helps. But I seldom shoot wider than 
>>> 28mm so I don't feel too motivated to upgrade to the DFA 15-30.
>>>
>>> I suspect that the reimbursement from Subaru will go into the VW repair 
>>> fund. My wife's 2009 Tiguan seems to develop a $500 - $1000 problem every 
>>> 10K or so. In the past year and a half we've replaced the timing chain, PCV 
>>> system, rear main seal (blew out when the PCV system failed) and water 
>>> pump. Last Thursday the dealership told me that both rear springs are 
>>> broken - I need to get that checked out by an independent mechanic. Seems 
>>> odd that both springs would break at the same time and that the car would 
>>> still ride just fine.
>>>
>>> Good luck with your car search. CVT's are a fact o life these days but they 
>>> seem to be prone to funky and fatal errors. I would do serious research on 
>>> any CVT vehicle.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>
>>>> I was just thinking about you and your Subaru CVT a few time in the past 
>>>> week. (We are looking for a car right now.)
>>>>
>>>> I am glad to hear that good news. I'd say that's probably an indicator of 
>>>> Subaru being one of the better manufacturers (behavior-wise). (Even though 
>>>> they should've admitted their problems much earlier.) And your local 
>>>> dealership is also among the better once since they've covered 50% even 
>>>> before this event.
>>>>
>>>> Nissan gave us all sort of problems with our CVT (on Rogue) over the past 
>>>> 9 year, starting from the 1st year.  And both, our dealership and the 
>>>> corporate office were very bad to address these problems. They were 
>>>> refusing to admit the problems despite the symptoms, until the 
>>>> transmission failed completely. And for the 2nd time, they were delaying 
>>>> admitting the problem it until the mileage was beyond the limit.
>>>>
>>>> After almost 20 years of owning Nissans (not exclusively), I am too afraid 
>>>> to buy any Nissan at this point: all models I would be potentially 
>>>> interested in have CVTs, and Nissan CVTs are plagued with problems, and 
>>>> Nissan is bad addressing them.
>>>>
>>>> Speaking of "impressive" warranties (mentioned by Alan), - I've just 
>>>> learned that the "best industry warranty" advertised by Hyundai is to a 
>>>> large extent a gimmick: Only the 1st owner is eligible for the 10 yrs/100k 
>>>> miles (powertrain) warranty, for the subsequent owners it is 5yrs/60K.
>>>> (Additionally, there is practically no "bumper-to-bumper", large portion 
>>>> of the coverage of the "limited" warranty ends within the 1st year.)
>>>> Kia's "industry-best" warranty is a similar gimmick.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, - I am glad Mark for you. Despite the headache, at least you 
>>>> didn't suffer as much of the financial hit...
>>>>
>>>> And the most intriguing question (for this list):
>>>> Are you going to buy some new lens with the unexpected ~$4K?
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Igor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark C Sat, 15 Jul 2017 20:46:26 -0700 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just over a year ago I posted about the failure of my Subaru CVT 
>>>> transmission, and appreciated the advice I got here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday I received a notice from Subaru that they have retroactively 
>>>> extended the warranty on the CVT's to 10 years / 100K. The letter included 
>>>> a claim form to get reimbursement for out of pocket repair costs for those 
>>>> of us who had their CVT fail. Subaru picked up 50% of the cost to replace 
>>>> my transmission but I was still out of pocket about $4000 - good on Subaru 
>>>> to step and cover this problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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