It sounds like a transitional model.  The two screws baffles me though.  I'd need to 
see pictures to be sure we're talking about the
same thing.

ppro


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eduardo
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:30 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Spotmatic - help needed....
>
>
>
> Thank you! You have lots of information about my camera that I wasn't even
> aware of...:-)
>
> I'm comparing this one to a later production one (product n�23102) and it
> seems to me that the details were slowly changing at that time because my
> earlier one have some of the peculiarities that you've mentioned but lacks
> others. If that's correct, there's no way of establishing a precise date in
> which the product changed (except for the change to product 23102)...
>
> > Meter ASA Range.  Does it only go to 800?  This would further indicate an
> early production version.
>
>
> No. it goes to 1600.
>
> >Top Cover.  Is there a screw that is partially hidden by the film advance
> lever on the top of the cover?  Or is there a > screw on the
> > right side of the camera that contributes to holding the top cover on?
> The latter is an indication of early production.
>
>
> Actually it has both screws. The one on the side of the body is exactly the
> same shape of the one partially hidden by the lever.
>
> >Film Counter.  The cover of the film counter on early Spotmatics is taller
> than later cameras.
>
>
> Yes. That's one detail I wasn't aware of until I put the two bodies side by
> side. The earlier one is higher. It's shape is also similar to the film
> REWIND knob on the other side of the camera.
>
>
> > Film Back.  Late production Spotmatics, Spotmatic II's, some Sp500 and
> SP1000's have a chrome roller that          > presses the film flat.  It
> > is very unlikely that this roller will be present on early  Spotmatics
> with the original film back, and is not present on    > most Spotmatics of
> any vintage.
>
> Both of them lack the roller you've described.
>
> > There are differences in the focusing screen, self timer, engraving
> lettering font, strap triangle rings, etc.
>
> The only one I could notice is that ther earlier's focusing screem has it's
> fresnel lines more tightly spaced.
> Can't comment about strap rings --- thanks, Steve --- because it lacked them
> when I bought it. In fact, the seller omitted to mention the frozen battery
> cover and the misaligned second curtain on his Ebay description and I almost
> returned the camera --- I ended up deciding against doing so because he was
> such a difficult guy to comunicate with.
> Now I'm glad I didn't. I think you're correct; it's an interesting piece of
> Pentax's history. She's not at risk of being used too much. Like many people
> here, I have much more cameras than I need, although much less than I
> wanted...:-)
>
>
>
> My personal view is that the earliest Spotmatic cameras are interesting from
> an industrial design and historical perspective, and
> are fine cameras.  As a camera for practical use, later refinements in the
> Spotmatic family of cameras led to improvements which
> subtly improved the line.  If I were to find an early camera, I would make
> it operational and use it sparingly to keep it
> operational but would rely on later versions for regular photography.
>
> ppro
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eduardo
> > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 1:13 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Spotmatic - help needed....
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sometime ago I bought a very old Spotmatic for cheap with some problems. I
> > had the problems fixed and it works perfectly now.
> > I'm intrigued by some of it's details and wonder if someone could help me
> > determine the age of the camera.
> > I guess it's an early one (product n�231). But I couldn't find more
> precise
> > information about it.
> > It's meter switch is narrower that the later, more common kind and the
> arrow
> > pointing up is engraved on the camera rather than on the switch. It
> doesn't
> > look like something adapted, IMHO. Besides that, the battery chamber (is
> > this the correct name) is made entirely of metal (I understand the later
> > ones are not like this) which I'm not sure was not adapted to the camera.
> > What I would like to know is:
> > 1) Is it really an early one (product n�231)?
> > 2) If so, are these details --- meter switch and battery chamber ---
> > correct?
> > 3) Accordingly to the AOHC, product n�231 was built from 7/1964 until
> 1965,
> > but it doesn't say which month it's production ceased (It also states that
> > product n�23102 was built from 1965, without further detail). Can someone
> at
> > least say if production stopped in the first or second semester of that
> > year?
> > 4) It's serial n� is 1160700. Could it be the 700th Spotmatic built?
> > Thanks in advance for sharing your expertise.
> > Eduardo.
> > -----Mensagem original-----
> > De: David A. Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Data: Sexta-feira, 1 de Mar�o de 2002 00:22
> > Assunto: Re: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
> >
> >
> > >David Brooks wrote:
> > >
> > >> All those who new that Aaron would say that
> > >> raise their hands<big grin>
> > >
> > > Someone ought to buy Aaron an Auto 110 ;)
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >- Dave
> > >
> > >http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date)
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