That sounds good if you think that people are always rational actors. But they aren't. They are imperfect, unreasonable, creatures driven by emotion, even when there are very detailed procedures to follow.
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 3:20 PM, P. J. Alling <[email protected]> wrote: > On 3/19/2011 3:09 PM, eckinator wrote: >> >> 2011/3/19 P. J. Alling<[email protected]>: >>> >>> I deal with lawyers every day, so it's not as if I'd believe the one of >>> them >>> at this point. Manning's lawyer not a neutral observer, he's an >>> advocate, >>> and there's no penalty if he lies, unless he's actually in court. There's >>> even less penalty if the Government lies. as well. However I find the >>> story >>> of torture to be unbelievable for a number of reasons not the least of >>> which >>> is that there's no percentage in it There''s no new information the >>> military can squeeze out of him, and if he ever actually goes to trial, >>> any >>> actual torture will come out. >> >> that is why "prevention of injury watch" is so smart - the argument is >> they had to do it to keep him from committing suicide. they did it for >> his own good. asking someone if he is ok every five minutes around the >> clock has enormous impact on mental stability in the long run. >> combined with the monotony it breaksup your life into a repetitive 5 >> minute cycle. you lose track of time in a matter of days and temporal >> disorientation is known to accelerate all sorts of other ill effects. > > Once again, you are postulating torture for torture sake. There's no > percentage in it. The Government gains nothing and can lose everything. > Rational beings don't risk that. Manning is a known prisoner. Even the > most repressive government would think twice about the public relations > disaster actually torturing such a prisoner would be. You are exhibiting a > fairly paranoid attitude about this. No officer in the US military that > cared about his career would allow this to happen, because eventually > someone will have to be punished, and they know it wouldn't be a politician. > > -- > Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! > > --Marvin the Martian. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
