I'm resigned to the fact that things may stay pretty much where they are for 
the foreseeable future (Canon and Nikon for full-frame). But I'm so smitten 
with the tininess of the K-x and the high quality of the 31, 43, and 77 Pentax 
lenses, I don't feel particularly deprived right now. 

Jeffery

On Sep 26, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

> I understand, but we got used to one system (35mm) because we had to.
> It was a trade-off of weight and size relative to 120.  People will
> adjust to the new smaller format, and blur their background in
> Photoshop.  Or better, the camera will do it.  You choose max DOF or
> less and the camera processes it for you.  Evidently Photozone will
> not make direct comparison between micro 4/3 lenses and others because
> these cameras always correct the lenses for distortions.
> 
> http://www.photozone.de/olympus--four-thirds-lens-tests/464-pana_20_17?start=1
> 
> It has been pointed out that the Lumix 20 actually gives better
> results with PS doing the correcting instead of the camera.
> Eventually the camera bodies will be good enough computers to handle
> all of this.  We're still in that painful development stage.  I'm
> still amazed that ISO 3200 is not big deal any more.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Jeffery Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> For me, it's the DOF that is the biggest point. The 25/1.4 Summilux is a 
>> great lens, but a 25mm lens has a huge DOF compared to a 50/1.4 wide open.
>> 
>> Jeffery
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 26, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
>> 
>>> I agree with the gist of this.  People focus (no pun intended) on FF
>>> systems as the "way to go" because there are so many lenses out there
>>> built for this format.  Pentax, Olympus, Panasonic, etc.  are
>>> beginning to have extensive lens systems based on smaller formats.
>>> Given the quality of the sensors most folks, even most pros, could get
>>> away with a smaller sensor.  yes I know noise is better, you get more
>>> cropping space, lenses are wider, etc.  I know that the laws of nature
>>> dictate that smaller sensors will always be at a disadvantage relative
>>> to larger ones.  Still, in business the law of "good enough" applies.
>>> OTOH, mirrorless systems are smaller and lighter and very appealing to
>>> customers with $$$.  The funny part is that Pentax will soon have one
>>> of the biggest sensor systems under $10k.  It will be purchased by
>>> those who can really use it and those who really want it (who have the
>>> $$$).
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:28 PM, P. J. Alling
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>  Nikon and Canon, are probably worried that mirrorless systems will
>>>> cannibalize their current entry level DSLR business.  Sony Pentax and
>>>> Olympus have much less to loose and much more to gain.
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/26/2010 5:50 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Despite keeping relatively high prices, mirrorless systems are told to
>>>>> have already taken 12% of sales on interchangeable-lens systems in Japan,
>>>>> and growing quickly. I wonder what Canon & Nikon are waiting for jumping 
>>>>> on
>>>>> the boat...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dario
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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