I have a daughter in college that can get Adobe software discounted,
thanks for the idea, I would have forgotten about that.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Bob Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote:
> Gonz,
> I used my daughter-in-law's teacher ID to get it for $100.  A good price.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Gonz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Thanks, John & Bob.  Lightroom sounds like a useful addition.  It
>> sounds like an advanced version of Adobe Bridge, which came with the
>> version of Photoshop I use.  Bridge is limited in its editing
>> capabilities, i.e. applying the same raw settings from one image to
>> another, which is useful when you have a bunch of shots with the same
>> color temp for example.  Other than that, it will basically call
>> photoshop or the raw converter to do anything more.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Bob Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Gonz,
>>> I was using PS Elements 5.0 when I switched to Lightroom.
>>> Lightroom functions a lot like an old light tray of slides.
>>> Library and Develop are my most used modules.
>>> Library creates a directory of images you have imported.
>>> It lets you pull up a batch of 2 to 50+ slides on a 'light table'.
>>> You can find the good ones and discard rejects easily and zoom in on
>>> single images.
>>> The LR 2.0 Develop module lets you crop, adjust exposure, and other basics.
>>> I found the adjustments in LR 2.0 were easier and looked better than
>>> in Elements 5.0.
>>> I still go back to Elements 5.0 on occasion, but am cautious of the colors.
>>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Gonz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Thanks John, good info.  So everyone keeps mentioning LightRoom here.
>>>> Is this preferable to PhotoShop, or an orthogonal product altogether?
>>>>
>>>> rg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:59 PM, John Francis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The biggest drawback with laptops is the maximum memory configuration;
>>>>> apart from that they are more than good enough for most purposes.
>>>>>
>>>>> My work machine (a Compaq 8710w) supposedly can support 4GB memory sticks,
>>>>> so in theory can support 8GB of memory.  But 4GB memory sticks are hard to
>>>>> find (and 32-bit Windows won't address more than 3GB anyway), so typical
>>>>> notebooks (2 DIMM slots) can often have a limit of 4GB physical RAM.
>>>>>
>>>>> You should be able to find a Core 2 Duo processor (speed 2.2 - 2.5 GHz)
>>>>> and a dedicated graphics card (ATI or nVidia) and 500GB of had disk space
>>>>> at a reasonable price; we paid roughly $700 for an HP with a 17" display
>>>>> six months ago, and prices generally go down (just like camera bodies).
>>>>> [We actually paid a little more than that, but that was to get a second
>>>>> hard drive and Windows 7 64-bit Professional]
>>>>>
>>>>> The newer processors (i5, etc.) are even faster, but (of course) more
>>>>> expensive.  I haven't found LR to be sluggish on my systems.  But the
>>>>> memory size can be an issue, especially working with very large images
>>>>> such as stitched panoramas; the I/O bandwidth from notebook drives is
>>>>> not as good as you can get from a SCSI RAID array.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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