From: "William Robb"
From: "Bob Sullivan"

Graydon wrote:
>The US generally runs prisons as profit centres.<
I don't think so.  Maybe loss centers or money pits.

Are they run as privately owned institutions under contract to the government or are they owned by the government? If it's the former, then it is a for profit system (though not profiting the taxpayer).

There was a significant experiment in "privatization" of prison systems during the Reagan/Bush I administrations, mostly at the state level. For profit corporations bid on projects to build and run prison facilities, with the idea they could do it "more efficiently" and make a profit while lowering the costs paid by the government.

The idea was it costs the government $50,000 per year per prisoner, and the private companies were saying they could do it if the government would pay them $30,000 per year per prisoner, or some such savings to the taxpayers.

Most of the projects eventually ended up in bankruptcy, with the government having to take control & operate the prisons, usually at a higher cost - MORE than $50,000 per year per prisoner - than if they'd built and operated the prisons themselves in the first place.

In the meantime the people who RAN the corporations walked away with a pretty healthy chunk of change while their investors and the taxpayers got the shaft ... again. That's pretty much the rule for how privatization of government services works.

The new federal prison in, I think Illinois, that's going to be used to house GITMO detainees (presumably after trial & conviction?) is a former private "for profit" prison.

The real problem in the U.S. is we have too many people in prison who shouldn't be there; people who society would be better served in the long term if they were kept in their communities under intensely supervised probation.

But that kind of probation system costs more to operate properly than just warehousing prisoners.

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