Interestingly, on my Boxster, the factory states oil change (Mobil One 
synthetic) intervals of 20K miles or 1 year.

>But my lease cars get the oil changed every 20,000 miles,
Since you're leasing its probably ok, but I wonder about the efficiency of 
the oil filter during those 20K miles.
Only way to know would be to have a chemical analysis of the oil done, but 
the cost of that would defeat the savings of 20k intervals.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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Subject: Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list


>I do all that and more on my 55 BelAir Convertible. I even wash the 
>underside by hand with Fantastik and rags every 1000 miles or so. But my 
>lease cars get the oil changed every 20,000 miles, whether they need it or 
>not:-)/ Period. In truth, I don't do it myself. I go to quick-change oil 
>place, which are still way cheaper than the dealer. About twenty dollars. 
>The rest of the maintenance schedule is truly unnecessary for the first 
>50,000 miles, if you're not keeping the car. Much of it is unnecessary 
>regardless. Today's cars are amazingly self sufficient. But service is a 
>big part of dealer profits. Hence, the maintenance schedulse. (Changing ATF 
>is the one that gets me chuckling the most. )
> Paul
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> While I agree in principle, the regular maintenance of any modern
>> vehicle does actually require more than changing the oil and filter
>> periodically. Unless you're unconcerned with the lifespan of the
>> vehicle, which I guess might be the case with a leased vehicle.
>>
>> Of course, there's also the time and effort associated with proper
>> disposal of the waste oil and filter, which is toxic waste and might
>> also have additional expenses associated with it.
>>
>> BTW, while modern synthetic oils do maintain their lubricity for far
>> greater than older oils and modern engines run cleaner, there are
>> still lots of combustion toxins and engine part corrosivie impurities
>> that the oil is infused with during normal operation, which is why
>> you're changing the oil. If you want to change the oil on a very long
>> service interval, you should change the filter every 5000-6000 miles
>> and replenish the oil to make up for the losses incurred.
>>
>> The standard service on my car involves an inspection and maintenance
>> of all the electrical connections, torquing chassis bolts, rotating
>> the tires, inspecting the brake friction material, changing the oil
>> and filter, making sure the coolant and hydraulic fluids are up to
>> spec, running diagnostics for the computer, electric motors and
>> battery system, and a few other details. It takes about an hour and a
>> quarter, if you have the right equipment, and the $90 service charge
>> includes toxic waste disposal fees. I don't have the right equipment
>> to do the whole job correctly ... Since I own the car and intend to
>> keep it in top condition for at 8 years, that $90 every four to six
>> months/5000 miles is a good investment.
>>
>> Godfrey
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2008, at 3:00 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>> > Why? Who wants to spend thirty dollars at a dealership, when five
>> > dollars and ten minutes of work can yield the same result.
>> > Paul
>> > On Jan 7, 2008, at 10:55 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> >
>> >> On a leased automobile? That would be very odd.
>> >>
>> >> Godfrey
>> >>
>> >> On Jan 7, 2008, at 7:40 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Some of us do our own basic maintenance. When I was driving, I did
>> >>> all
>> >>> of my fluid changes and belt changes (Do the same for my bicycle
>> >>> now).
>> >>>
>> >>> -Adam
>> >>>
>> >>> On 1/7/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Jan 7, 2008, at 7:02 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> ... I've had six Chrysler, Dodge or Jeep
>> >>>>> leased vehicles over the last 15 years. None has ever had to spend
>> >>>>> even an hour in the dealership.  ...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You've never had them serviced? How odd. ]'-)


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