I do all that and more on my 55 BelAir Convertible. I even wash the underside by hand with Fantastik and rags every 1000 miles or so. But my lease cars get the oil changed every 20,000 miles, whether they need it or not:-)/ Period. In truth, I don't do it myself. I go to quick-change oil place, which are still way cheaper than the dealer. About twenty dollars. The rest of the maintenance schedule is truly unnecessary for the first 50,000 miles, if you're not keeping the car. Much of it is unnecessary regardless. Today's cars are amazingly self sufficient. But service is a big part of dealer profits. Hence, the maintenance schedulse. (Changing ATF is the one that gets me chuckling the most. ) Paul -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > While I agree in principle, the regular maintenance of any modern > vehicle does actually require more than changing the oil and filter > periodically. Unless you're unconcerned with the lifespan of the > vehicle, which I guess might be the case with a leased vehicle. > > Of course, there's also the time and effort associated with proper > disposal of the waste oil and filter, which is toxic waste and might > also have additional expenses associated with it. > > BTW, while modern synthetic oils do maintain their lubricity for far > greater than older oils and modern engines run cleaner, there are > still lots of combustion toxins and engine part corrosivie impurities > that the oil is infused with during normal operation, which is why > you're changing the oil. If you want to change the oil on a very long > service interval, you should change the filter every 5000-6000 miles > and replenish the oil to make up for the losses incurred. > > The standard service on my car involves an inspection and maintenance > of all the electrical connections, torquing chassis bolts, rotating > the tires, inspecting the brake friction material, changing the oil > and filter, making sure the coolant and hydraulic fluids are up to > spec, running diagnostics for the computer, electric motors and > battery system, and a few other details. It takes about an hour and a > quarter, if you have the right equipment, and the $90 service charge > includes toxic waste disposal fees. I don't have the right equipment > to do the whole job correctly ... Since I own the car and intend to > keep it in top condition for at 8 years, that $90 every four to six > months/5000 miles is a good investment. > > Godfrey > > On Jan 8, 2008, at 3:00 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > > Why? Who wants to spend thirty dollars at a dealership, when five > > dollars and ten minutes of work can yield the same result. > > Paul > > On Jan 7, 2008, at 10:55 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > > >> On a leased automobile? That would be very odd. > >> > >> Godfrey > >> > >> On Jan 7, 2008, at 7:40 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > >> > >>> Some of us do our own basic maintenance. When I was driving, I did > >>> all > >>> of my fluid changes and belt changes (Do the same for my bicycle > >>> now). > >>> > >>> -Adam > >>> > >>> On 1/7/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Jan 7, 2008, at 7:02 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> ... I've had six Chrysler, Dodge or Jeep > >>>>> leased vehicles over the last 15 years. None has ever had to spend > >>>>> even an hour in the dealership. ... > >>>> > >>>> You've never had them serviced? How odd. ]'-) > >>>> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions.
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