It's the only way we grow, right. ;-)

If I tell you a mediocre image is great, you may just keep on taking 
mediocre images thinking they're great.  I may be kind, but I'm doing you a 
disservice... and vice-versa of course. ;-)


Tom C.


>From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing
>Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:43:18 -0700 (PDT)
>
>In the future, I'll be especially eager to read your comments re my
>stuff. <grin>
>
>Jack
>
>--- ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Tom C wrote:
> >
> > >If someone is sharing an image out of camaraderie it's one thing.
> > In that
> > >case the person is likely not expecting feedback about the image,
> > but
> > >possibly just about the subject, as when I displayed the photos of
> > the
> > >chihuahua.  It seems though that almost every image is viewed as
> > >exceptional.
> > >
> > >
> > >One must also take into consideration the experience of the one
> > making the
> > >comments.   Perceptions and the ability to view critically grow with
> > time.
> > >Images that I once thought were very good, now present glaring
> > deficiencies
> > >when I view them. They may have been the best I had done at the
> > time, but in
> > >hindsight I see they were not a good as I once thought.
> > >
> > >Tom C.
> > >
> >
> > I think the opposite happens occasionally too.... one reason I never
> > literally toss stuff I've done
> > even if I think it is lousy work :)
> >
> > Now and then I find something in my archives taht I think is worth
> > something and I chose a different
> > negative to print... I might find myself liking the one a rejected
> > years
> > ago better than the one I chose as
> > what I thought had the most promise.
> >
> > In terms of  commenting on others here, I generally give a nod to
> > those
> > I enjoy but if I feel I can help by
> > serious critquing I tend to do that off list...
> >
> > IF something really sucks I keep my fingers off the keyboard :)
> >
> > ann
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
> > >>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
> > >>Subject: Re: Cut or Keep?  A Question About Editing
> > >>Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:10:48 -0600
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>
> > >>Subject: Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>In a message dated 10/15/2007 9:24:08 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
> > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > >>>And stop posting pictures  here, because you won't get an accurate
> >
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>opinion
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>about what is good from this  list.
> > >>>
> > >>>William Robb
> > >>>
> > >>>===============
> > >>>I beg to differ. Only  someone who showed his own photos on list
> > so
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>rarely
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>would think this.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>Chicken or egg, dear?
> > >>When I see people who indiscriminately praise everything thats
> > posted,
> > >>whether tepid or otherwise, I tend to lose respect for the entire
> > process.
> > >>Rather than damning with faint praise, which does no good at all,
> > perhaps
> > >>it
> > >>would be more honest to call spades what they are.
> > >>Often, this list is little more than a circle jerk when it comes to
> > >>reviewing pictures. It's a nice, warm and happy place, and I
> > appreciate
> > >>that
> > >>people need that in their lives, but the best way to improve your
> > pictures
> > >>is to have it ruthlessly picked apart, and have the failings of the
> > picture
> > >>pointed out. Unfortunately, when people do that, they tend to get
> > spat on.
> > >>
> > >>I don't post a lot of photos at the moment because most of my
> > photography
> > >>right now is client based for the studio I am working for, and I'm
> > not
> > >>bothering with securing permission to show the stuff. My work is
> > selling,
> > >>and making money, I don't need praise beyond that.
> > >>
> > >>We can agree to disagree on this one, I won't think less of you for
> > it, and
> > >>I hope you'll feel the same way.
> > >>
> > >>William Robb
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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