But it's extensible using LISP, how could that be bad? Adam Maas wrote: > Actually it's just ingrained muscle memory, years of having to use vi > while maintaining services on Unix machines means that the basic editing > commands are pretty much automatic. vi is ideal for that use, it's > lightweight and everything has it. > > I still :wq on a regular basis in just about every other editor/word > processor. > > If you want punishment, use emacs. All the weight of Word, none of the > Eye Candy. > > -Adam > > > P. J. Alling wrote: > >> You are a glutton for punishment... >> >> Adam Maas wrote: >> >>> I use vi >>> >>> -Adam >>> Always the odd one out. >>> >>> >>> Tom C wrote: >>> >>> >>>> It'll likely be a matter of attrition. What % of people here use >>>> WordPerfect as opposed to MS Word? >>>> >>>> I'll bet it's a 5/95 ratio if not higher. Not too different from where >>>> Pentax stands in the market, despite some recent relative success with the >>>> K10D. >>>> >>>> Your suppositions are probably correct. When I say done for, I'm not >>>> predicting when... I'm saying that inevitable market forces will finally >>>> take their toll, unless something changes quickly. >>>> >>>> Tom C. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? >>>>> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:20:34 -0400 >>>>> >>>>> Why? Pentax has never been a player in the Pro 35mm market. Not being >>>>> one now will make little difference. >>>>> >>>>> I expect to see them bring out a body above the K10D within the next 6 >>>>> months, or a K10D 'successor' that is little more than the new Sony 12MP >>>>> sensor and a new shutter in the K10D body, perhaps with a higher >>>>> framerate. I don't expect to see a Pentax body above the $1300 or so >>>>> price point. >>>>> >>>>> -Adam >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tom C wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> LOL. You're not breaking it to me. I was being kind. :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Pentax has a slim chance yet to recover. If they blow it in the next 6 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> - 12 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> months though, I susect they are done for. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom C. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Mark Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: "pdml" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:59:17 -0400 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hate to break it to you, but in the USA, Pentax *is* a "2nd tier >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> camera >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> company". The company hasn't released a truly professional system >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> camera >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> here (or anywhere, actually) since the LX. The current high-end Pentax >>>>>>> lens >>>>>>> selection is miniscule compared to Canon and Nikon. Pentax does not >>>>>>> provide >>>>>>> the kind of professional support that Canon and Nikon do at major >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> sporting >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> events. Pentax products lack presence on store shelves in the USA. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> Etc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Tom C wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "John Sessoms" >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> NDA) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If memory serves the other two are an over-priced Nissan and an >>>>>>>>>> over-priced Honda. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I guess that depends on what your personal comfort is worth. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> William Robb >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My analogy was not about price, it was about image, prestige, >>>>>>>> perception in the market place. Sure a FF DSLR will cost more >>>>>>>> than one with an APS-C size sensor. If the Canons, Nikon's, >>>>>>>> Sony's of the world offer FF DSLR's, then Pentax must also. >>>>>>>> If they do not, they will relegate themselves to a 2nd >>>>>>>> tier camera company, and it doesn't matter who loves their >>>>>>>> camera, or how much it satisfies their current needs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tom C. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>>>> follow the directions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>> follow the directions. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > >
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