Genetic drift puts the event well into prehistory.  If I was going to 
literally interpret the bible I'd have to ignore way too many other facts...

Tom C wrote:
> Odd how that scientific study seems to correlate with Noah (1), his three 
> sons (3) and their respective wives (4). 1 + 3 + 4 = 8.
>
> Feel free to ignore the seeming coincidence.
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> Tom C.
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>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Subject: Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted
>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 12:29:11 -0400
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>> That's true, but in hard times, (and there have been a lot of hard
>> times), something as anti survival as a resource hungry giant brain,
>> that hasn't yet reached real survival value, (and the brain is very
>> resource hungry), would be very anti-survival.  I don't remember exactly
>> where I've read this but, I seem to recall that at one point the
>> progenitors of current humanity were down to 8 or so individuals, (based
>> on some genetic study or other).  That is rather extreme speciation
>> The only other modern species that had such a close call are cheetahs,
>> at a much later time period.
>>
>> AlunFoto wrote:
>>     
>>> Human brain development may well be a runaway evolution process, just
>>> like the tail feathers of paradise birds, reindeer antlers, etc. etc.
>>> Any feature that enhance your probability of reproduction can continue
>>> evolving far beyond mere likelihood of survival.
>>>
>>> There's a lot of literature...
>>>
>>> Jostein
>>>
>>> 2007/6/13, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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>>>       
>>>> No you've not paid attention to the literature.  A larger brain is
>>>> helpful up to the point where it stops helping with basic survival.
>>>> This happens quite a bit smaller than ours.  In fact at the size of 
>>>>         
>> homo
>>     
>>>> habilis, after that, until the advent of true tool making and real
>>>> cooperation beyond a hunt it's just dead weight.  The brain is ghastly
>>>> expensive in energy resources for the human body and incremental 
>>>>         
>> changes
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>>>> in size from that point don't add to capabilities enough to make up for
>>>> the costs.  The development of a larger than needed brain was not pure
>>>> chance, it was incremental, but with no practical survival value.
>>>>
>>>> graywolf wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> No, you are missing a point there, Peter. Non-survival traits do away 
>>>>>           
>> with a line. Survival traits give it a boost. But traits that do not affect 
>> survival are a dice roll, which is the point you are missing. Pure chance, 
>> in other words.
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