File this under FWIW - My wife's uncle was a professor of petroleum engineering @ a major university. He specialized in reservoir engineering, both above & below ground. He's stated several times that when he entered his field shortly after WWII, no one knew how much petroleum was in the earth. Last time we talked a few years ago about this subject, he made the same statement. He also stated that as the easiest (least costly) to obtain petroleum ran out, harder to obtain (more expensive processes) became viable.
Kenneth Waller ----- Original Message ----- From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted > Well, we could kill 200000000 dinosaurs and wait 200 thousand years. > Actually most petrol seems to be dead veggies. Peat bogs come to mind. But > in the end something else will be cheaper and petrol will become a thing > of the past. That is I think Simon's argument. > > Cars are just the most visible users of petrol, but they are only the tip > of the iceberg. And I think that Knarf may be the only one here on the > list who actually isn't a total hypocrite about this, but I notice he does > not mind using someone else's gas guzzler to get somewhere. > > The biggest problem is overpopulation. The solution is easy. But I do not > see any of the environmentalists here saying they are willing to kill > themselves to help solve it. > > -- > graywolf > http://www.graywolfphoto.com > http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf > "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" > ----------------------------------- > > > AlunFoto wrote: >> I'd say it's a bigger fallacy to equate all the world's resources to >> the situation for five specific metals. >> >> For example, humans can't regenerate fossil fuels from its waste >> products. >> >> Jostein >> >> 2007/6/13, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> Another fallacy, you don't have to believe it if you don't want to, but >>> the reason why Julian L. Simon won his bet with Paul Ehrlich is the same >>> reason we'll not run out of resources. You can read about it here if >>> you want to. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehrlich-Simon_bet In fact >>> one one of the important Metals expected to be in short supply by the >>> end of the last 20th century is now considered an abundant toxic waste, >>> can you guess which one? (It wasn't part of this bet). Sustainability >>> assumes no change and everything always changes. >>> >>> William Robb wrote: >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "P. J. Alling" >>>> Subject: Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Sustainability is a myth, so far progress has worked much better. (In >>>>> fact it's given a lot of people the luxury to worry about the planet, >>>>> rather than were their next meal is coming from). >>>>> >>>> >>>> Progress only works until you run out of the resources needed to >>>> sustain it. >>>> We'll get to that point, probably sooner rather than later, with a >>>> major >>>> resource. >>>> >>>> William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

