> The major limiter on population growth will be clean water.. Yeah but just stay away from the Great Lakes!
Kenneth Waller ----- Original Message ----- From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted > The major limiter on population growth will be clean water, unless of > course we find an unlimited supply of energy, with enough energy nothing > is impossible. > > Adam Maas wrote: >> No, sustainability is simply one of the major variables that governs the >> supply part of supply and demand. >> >> -Adam >> Who will note that most natural resources are either renewable or >> available in vast quantities far outstripping any reasonable projection >> of our growth. The only major exception is petrochemicals. >> >> >> P. J. Alling wrote: >> >>> That's a bullshit statement. Sustainability is a myth. >>> >>> >>> William Robb wrote: >>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "P. J. Alling" >>>> Subject: Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Sadly most people don't seem to understand supply and demand. It's >>>>> all >>>>> a matter of cost. When prices rise high enough for a commodity >>>>> suitable >>>>> replacements are found, or if a less costly alternative exists the >>>>> substitution will begin if prices simply stay the same. Oil was >>>>> substituted for Coal because total costs of using it for energy were >>>>> lower. Something will be substituted for Oil when either of those two >>>>> conditions is met. It's quite likely that the US will go back to Coal >>>>> for a while, (the US is the Saudi Arabia of Coal), abet with new >>>>> plants >>>>> being much cleaner than the old, but the price of Oil in real terms >>>>> will >>>>> have to be much higher than it is now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Supply and demand economic models aren't based on sustainability, and >>>> as a >>>> consequence aren't based on intelligence. >>>> >>>> >>>>> No matter what is causing global warming, (and if it's man made, all >>>>> the >>>>> CO2 models, flawed though they may be, show that cutting back on >>>>> emissions is way to late to make a difference in the short to mid >>>>> term). Rich societies have a much better chance of mitigating any >>>>> untoward effects of global temperature rises than poor ones, so given >>>>> that the changes are coming and we can't stop them, it's best to not >>>>> do >>>>> anything that will make any societies poorer. Unfortunately most if >>>>> not >>>>> all of the prescriptions to "fix" global warming will do just that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I wouldn't have believed that the best advice a supposedly educated >>>> person >>>> can give as a solution is to race hell bent for the precipice if I >>>> han't >>>> read your post. >>>> >>>> William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
