CATEGORICALLY FALSE - this particular bokeh problem can be easily seen in-camera viewfinder when focussing, can be seen in the unedited RAW files, can be easily seen with ZERO sharpening, and BOKEH is of such a scale relative to sharpening that I believe this post is wrong about any bokeh issues with ANY lens. I dont know where he came up this hogwash that its being caused by sharpening or ANY image processing, but it not only isnt true in this case, it makes NO SENSE in any case. BOKEH is large out of focus highlights, sharpening doesnt effect that, it only effects things nearly in focus or things in focus because it works on detected edge transitions. I think he should have asked about processing before claiming processing most like is screwing it up or stating that this model lens has "the smoothest bokeh he's ever seen", any fool can see its really weird in the photos I have posted and should have known that normal sharpening doesnt effect bokeh and should have READ that I already stated its visible in the camera viewfinder but this guy doesnt read before he runs his mouth.
Secondly, even his "proof" example is bad example because it is showing simple "stripes" of background out of focus, not points, out of focus points (specular) highlights reveal the bokeh problem with this or any lens much more than stipes like that can. jco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 3:20 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: More 85mm f2.0 smc-M bokeh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thibouille" Subject: Re: More 85mm f2.0 smc-M bokeh > Mmm I find the bokeh to be quite OK: not bad but not good either. But > this lens seems very sharp otherwise. > > Mmm I wonder if digital vs film has a big influence over bokeh. I'd > like to see a comparison like this. Something I discovered very early on, thanks to Valentin, was that the surest way to screw up bokeh is to apply sharpening to the image. The M85 has just about the smoothest bokeh of any lens I have seen: http://plg.komkon.org/m85_2/bo1.html. But, like anything else, heavy handed treatment can bugger things up. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
