Thanks for all the responses so far, keep-em coming.

The K100d is almost the same size as the *ist models. The grip has
been redesigned (different profile) and is also slightly thicker,
maybe by 8-10mm. The rest looks the same.

I can relate to the kinked up right hand (no, not for *that* reason)
after shooting for a while. In my case the DL gives me nowhere to put
my pinky. It gets curled up underneath and is very uncomfortable.

Ok, knowing there are other options for batteries helps eliminate the issue.
Pentaprism is still a biggie. I HATE the DL's VF.

The question now is, is it worth an extra 400 bucks? 400 bucks that
can be spent buying... additional lenses?

I have a lot of expensive hobbies. My road bike cost me quite a bit
(and that's me picking and choosing EVERYTHING. Saved over a grand
doing it that way.) I spend way too much on computer crap. I like
higher-end audio, etc. So far NONE of these hobbies has had as much
capacity to financially ruin as cameras.

All that to say that i have no problem spending money, but I am still
a student with a part time job, so 400 bucks saved in the body makes
all the difference at the end of the day.

Question to go along with the above: Do microprism/split circle focus
screens help mf in the case of the DL? Or is the VF too dim for these
to be effective?

Alex

On 4/19/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, they're slightly larger.  But I think they're slightly lighter.
> (I'm too lazy to look it up).
>
> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> > Are the K100D & K110D the same size/weight as the istDS?
> > jco
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Paul
> > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:54 PM
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: Re: Need help deciding between k100d or k10d
> >
> >
> > I have a K10D and much preferred the size and ergonomics of the ist*DS
> > which i assume is like the K100D. The size of the K10D actually puts me
> > off using it.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > AlexG wrote:
> >
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> I have been quite annoyed at all the low-light shots that I had to
> >> delete because of slight camera shake. While I'd love to have the use
> >> of a tripod, I A- Don't have one and B- wouldn't bring it with me if I
> >>
> >
> >
> >> did, so I've decided that shake reduction is a feature worth having.
> >>
> >> Also the JPEGs out of the DL are only satisfactory under very specific
> >>
> >
> >
> >> conditions. The k100d and k10d are both much better from what I've
> >> seen.
> >>
> >> I currently have an *ist DL, with 18-55 and 50-200 lenses. My M42
> >> 50mm/1.4 is currently sitting on ebay, because I suck at focusing when
> >>
> >
> >
> >> the light is low.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I am in a bit of a pickle. I am hesitating between k100d and
> >> k10d, the former being about half the cost of the k10d makes it
> >> extremely attractive right now.
> >>
> >> Here are the advantages of each, as I see them.
> >>
> >> K100d:
> >> CHEAP!!
> >> Lower noise
> >> Up to iso3200
> >> Better dynamic range than k10d (as measured in raw by
> >> Imaging-Resource) AA Batteries
> >>
> >> K10d:
> >> 10MP makes for an extra 800x600 of breathing room when cropping
> >> Pentaprism viewfinder SSD/SSM/USM in-lens focus compatibility
> >> (==future-proof) Excellent firmware (customizable white balance
> >> presets, mtf priority, adjustable autoiso range, hyperprogram, etc)
> >>
> >> Plan is to sell the DL, body-only for 250-300 on ebay, as it is almost
> >>
> >
> >
> >> new (2100 pics vs the 17000 that seems to be the norm here :) )
> >>
> >> I will get the FA50/1.4 at the time of purchase.
> >>
> >> I have been concerned about the k10d's image quality, both from a
> >> noise and 'banding' perspective. Proprietary li-ion batteries piss me
> >> off because they cost so much to replace.
> >>
> >> But the pentaprism looks gooooooooooood. As do some of the pictures
> >> I've seen. And SSM seems to be the proper solution to the pentax SLR
> >> slow autofocus syndrome, though this has yet to be verified. The
> >> lenses (DA*) seem to be very nice, and quite fast compared to the
> >> current DA zooms so they'd be nice to upgrade to.
> >>
> >> If I get the k100d, i can get SR RIGHT NOW and worry about a
> >> super-high-end camera in a year's time when the k10d's successor comes
> >>
> >
> >
> >> out.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I am thoroughly confused and I apologize for being a windbag
> >> in this thread. I realize this has probably been debated ad nausea,
> >> but I need some help to push me off the fence in either direction.
> >>
> >> Alex
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
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