FWIW: While on the road to recovery from a severe case of Acute Respiraory Distress Syndrome (ARDS), realized that I now needed some form of shake reduction. Since I was used to an *istD and a Z-1, the K10D presented the lowest learning curve and the better path toward the future.
The negatives for the K10D included its substanially greater heft - almost 1/3 heavier, coupled with its significantly higher cost. Therefore, for me, if I could remotely come up with the difference in cost, there would be no question. Larry in Dallas > Thanks for all the responses so far, keep-em coming. > > The K100d is almost the same size as the *ist models. The grip has > been redesigned (different profile) and is also slightly thicker, > maybe by 8-10mm. The rest looks the same. > > I can relate to the kinked up right hand (no, not for *that* reason) > after shooting for a while. In my case the DL gives me nowhere to put > my pinky. It gets curled up underneath and is very uncomfortable. > > Ok, knowing there are other options for batteries helps eliminate the > issue. > Pentaprism is still a biggie. I HATE the DL's VF. > > The question now is, is it worth an extra 400 bucks? 400 bucks that > can be spent buying... additional lenses? > > I have a lot of expensive hobbies. My road bike cost me quite a bit > (and that's me picking and choosing EVERYTHING. Saved over a grand > doing it that way.) I spend way too much on computer crap. I like > higher-end audio, etc. So far NONE of these hobbies has had as much > capacity to financially ruin as cameras. > > All that to say that i have no problem spending money, but I am still > a student with a part time job, so 400 bucks saved in the body makes > all the difference at the end of the day. > > Question to go along with the above: Do microprism/split circle focus > screens help mf in the case of the DL? Or is the VF too dim for these > to be effective? > > Alex > > On 4/19/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> No, they're slightly larger. But I think they're slightly lighter. >> (I'm too lazy to look it up). >> >> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >> > Are the K100D & K110D the same size/weight as the istDS? >> > jco >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> > Paul >> > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:54 PM >> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > Subject: Re: Need help deciding between k100d or k10d >> > >> > >> > I have a K10D and much preferred the size and ergonomics of the ist*DS >> > which i assume is like the K100D. The size of the K10D actually puts me >> > off using it. >> > >> > Paul >> > >> > AlexG wrote: >> > >> >> Hi guys, >> >> >> >> I have been quite annoyed at all the low-light shots that I had to >> >> delete because of slight camera shake. While I'd love to have the use >> >> of a tripod, I A- Don't have one and B- wouldn't bring it with me if I >> >> >> > >> > >> >> did, so I've decided that shake reduction is a feature worth having. >> >> >> >> Also the JPEGs out of the DL are only satisfactory under very specific >> >> >> > >> > >> >> conditions. The k100d and k10d are both much better from what I've >> >> seen. >> >> >> >> I currently have an *ist DL, with 18-55 and 50-200 lenses. My M42 >> >> 50mm/1.4 is currently sitting on ebay, because I suck at focusing when >> >> >> > >> > >> >> the light is low. >> >> >> >> Anyway, I am in a bit of a pickle. I am hesitating between k100d and >> >> k10d, the former being about half the cost of the k10d makes it >> >> extremely attractive right now. >> >> >> >> Here are the advantages of each, as I see them. >> >> >> >> K100d: >> >> CHEAP!! >> >> Lower noise >> >> Up to iso3200 >> >> Better dynamic range than k10d (as measured in raw by >> >> Imaging-Resource) AA Batteries >> >> >> >> K10d: >> >> 10MP makes for an extra 800x600 of breathing room when cropping >> >> Pentaprism viewfinder SSD/SSM/USM in-lens focus compatibility >> >> (==future-proof) Excellent firmware (customizable white balance >> >> presets, mtf priority, adjustable autoiso range, hyperprogram, etc) >> >> >> >> Plan is to sell the DL, body-only for 250-300 on ebay, as it is almost >> >> >> > >> > >> >> new (2100 pics vs the 17000 that seems to be the norm here :) ) >> >> >> >> I will get the FA50/1.4 at the time of purchase. >> >> >> >> I have been concerned about the k10d's image quality, both from a >> >> noise and 'banding' perspective. Proprietary li-ion batteries piss me >> >> off because they cost so much to replace. >> >> >> >> But the pentaprism looks gooooooooooood. As do some of the pictures >> >> I've seen. And SSM seems to be the proper solution to the pentax SLR >> >> slow autofocus syndrome, though this has yet to be verified. The >> >> lenses (DA*) seem to be very nice, and quite fast compared to the >> >> current DA zooms so they'd be nice to upgrade to. >> >> >> >> If I get the k100d, i can get SR RIGHT NOW and worry about a >> >> super-high-end camera in a year's time when the k10d's successor comes >> >> >> > >> > >> >> out. >> >> >> >> Anyway, I am thoroughly confused and I apologize for being a windbag >> >> in this thread. I realize this has probably been debated ad nausea, >> >> but I need some help to push me off the fence in either direction. >> >> >> >> Alex >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf >> thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:39:37 +1000 > From: "Digital Image Studio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Blogging soon... > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 20/04/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I can not imagine why anyone would want to do a blog. Of course I can >> not imagine why my journal, when I was doing it, was getting 3000 hits a >> month either. Maybe I should do a podcast then thousands of people could >> listen to me talk to myself... > > They obviously don't have HDTVs ;-) > > -- > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:43:13 +1000 > From: "Digital Image Studio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 20/04/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Guys, here's the key, get as many channels as you can >> and get a DVR/TIVO and learn how to use it. you will >> then go from the old way, having to watch the "garbage that happens to >> be on at the moment" to the "Best of ALL TV being shown on all channels" >> and be able to watch the BEST OF whenever you feel like >> it, not on somebody elses network schedule, the difference >> between these two methods in quality of what you watch >> and convience of when you watch it is beyond desription. >> SUPERMEGABLOWOUT might decribe the comparison... > > Does anyone really have to watch TV? Is it mandated in law? > > -- > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:45:17 -0400 > From: Mark Cassino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: OT: Extremely retro > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Nice shots - I'm not familiar with the Vest Pocket cameras, but that low > contrast soft focused look is great. > > - MCC > > Mark Erickson wrote: >> For you old camera enthusiasts: I reinvigorated my grandmother's old >> Kodak >> Vest Pocket Model B by having Jurgen Kreckel replace the disintegrated >> paper >> bellows (don't ask how much it cost). I just ran a roll of Efke 100 >> through >> it to see if it works. These pictures were taken early in April 2007 in >> the >> Sacramento area. I scanned a contact sheet, dust and all, and put the >> better >> shots into a little web page: >> >> http://www.westerickson.net/vestpocketmodelb >> >> It's kind of a refreshing change from worrying about whether to stay with >> my >> *ist-Ds or upgrade to a K10D. >> >> Enjoy, >> >> Mark >> >> > > > -- > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Mark Cassino Photography > Kalamazoo, Michigan > www.markcassino.com > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:49:39 -0400 > From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > What is not forbidden is compulsory, didn't you know that? > > > Digital Image Studio wrote: > >> >> Does anyone really have to watch TV? Is it mandated in law? >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > End of PDML Digest, Vol 12, Issue 262 > ************************************* > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
