I WAS INVOLVED.

Y O U   W E R E N ' T !

Its pure specualtive BS coming from you &
At my expense. That's wrong.

BUTT OUT!

J C O

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David Savage
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:54 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

You've been carping on about this for a couple of day's now in a
public forum. If you don't want people to comment, take it off list.

Dave

On 10/26/06, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Butt out.
>
> Stop slanderiing me with no evidence
> Whatsover on the matter other than
> The other partied self admitted incomplete
> Memory of the resolution.
>
> You were not involved and have no
> Right to be continuing with this
> Nonsense based on your incorrect
> "hunches".
>
> JCO
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> John Forbes
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:47 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey
>
> On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:30:55 +0100, J. C. O'Connell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes I misread that one. Most likely because its
> > A double negative. Most satisfactory would have
> > Have been just as easy but you don't want you
> > Use anything but the term unsatisfactory in your
> > posts on the Issue of course.
>
> The word "satisfactory" is inappropriate in this context.  When one
has
> a
> dispute, and the other person is rude and unpleasant, the outcome can
> never be satisfactory whether one obtains a full refund or not.
>
> Perhaps our intellectual capabilities are rather different, but I
don't
>
> think a double negative is a very difficult concept to grasp.  The
fact
> is
> that the deal was unsatisfactory for both of you - you had to waste
time
>
> and make a refund; Shel had to waste time and put up with your
rudeness.
>
> Of course we only have Shel's word for all this, but it is supported
by
>
> 400 abusive posts from you as circumstantial evidence.  And before you
> tell me that there were only 378 or whatever, I confess that my figure
> was
> just a guess.
>
> However, I note that this latest post from you contains no abuse, just
> sarcasm.  That is a major step forward.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > jco
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of
> > John Forbes
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:29 AM
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey
> >
> > On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:11:22 +0100, J. C. O'Connell
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Are both you and him retarded or what?
> >> Why would he chose the LEAST satifactory
> >
> > Just read what I wrote, you halfwit.  "Least UNsatisfactory"
> >
> > Your rudeness is unbelievable, but your stupidity is worse.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >> Option I gave him. He wouldn't he chose
> >> The BEST option I gave him of course which
> >> Was even better than a full refund including
> >> Shipping both ways which is a complete
> >> Cancellation of the deal with zero cost
> >> To the customer.
> >>
> >> He has no freaking right to complaing if
> >> Chose his so called worst option because that's his
> >> Own stupidity if he is standing by that.
> >>
> >> Secondly, I already stated this many times,
> >> I did not verbally abuse him and my TOTAL
> >> Refund offer is about as good as it gets
> >> When there is a dispute. Thirdly, did you
> >> Read the part about where he made the dispute
> >> WELL AFTER he received the item and I still
> >> Gave him both the full refund offer and partial
> >> Refund offers. You are an idiot if you
> >> Think that I didn't treat him fairly on
> >> That deal because that is as fair as
> >> It gets on item condtion disputes.
> >>
> >> And Fourth, he thought I sold him a "PERFECT"
> >> Lens when the listing made no such condition
> >> Claims whatsoever. He was doomed for dissatisfaction
> >> Right from the start if he expected a PERFECT
> >> Lens when it wasn't listed that way. You cant
> >> Expect MORE than listed and complain about
> >> It if you don't get MORE than listed.
> >> He is just being a malicious person for even
> >> Starting this issue on the thread and IMHO
> >> He had no right to make his initial post the
> >> Way he did considering how that deal was
> >> Handled by both me (good) and him (bad).
> >>
> >>
> >> jco
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
> > Of
> >> John Forbes
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 5:28 AM
> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> >> Subject: Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey
> >>
> >> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 07:24:40 +0100, graywolf
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Boy, there must be something out there lessoning me. I had a
recent
> >> deal
> >>> that I was not too happy about. Not the item, but the way the
seller
> >> was
> >>> acting. In the end it worked out, but I was up in the air about
> >>> feedback. Now this here, and a thread on another list made my
think
> > it
> >>> through, and I realized I could not give a rating based upon what
I
> >>> felt, but had to base it upon how the transaction turned out. I
just
> >>> left him a positive.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone can make a mistake. All you can do when that happens is
offer
> >> to
> >>> make sure it does not cost your customer anything. That means a
full
> >>> refund including all shipping. If John offered that then there is
> no,
> >>> not any, in any, way that the customer has a valid complaint.
> >>
> >> Sorry, I disagree. As Shel has posted, he took a partial refund as
> the
> >> least unsatisfactory option.  Any Ebay dispute is worrying, and I
can
> >> imagine that dealing with JCO would be highly traumatic.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>> Now, I will be the first to note that he has no idea of when to
shut
> >> up,
> >>> but he seems to share that with a lot of folks here on the list,
> >>> including yours truly at times. But, damn it, once a deal is done
it
> >> is
> >>> done. I have always hated those folks who save up complaints to
dump
> >> on
> >>> you maybe years later. However, I am going to filter out any
further
> >>> posts with JCO in the title, flame wars are not fun to me.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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