I think photography is as much about what not to photograph or include in a 
photo as it is about what to include.
I probably would not have taken the original image if I had noticed the 
distractions.
I pass up a lot of potential images for "imperfections", when I see them.

Kenneth Waller


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: PESO - Simple Macro


> This is an interesting discussion.  Since the first post, I have
> 'fixed' the image to not show the reality that was there.  I suppose
> it would be helpful to know the circumstances a bit.
>
> This was shot on San Bruno mountain in a state park that is trying to
> protect the plants and animals.  So first, one would have to decide
> whether to alter the foliage to make a shot that is different than
> reality or not.  Second, it was shot in early afternoon in very bright
> sun.  That means shooting much more like film - because I could barely
> make out the review screen - certainly not well enough to see the
> details that are deemed as less desirable.
>
> For myself, I tend toward things as they were, rather than altering
> them.  It is probably why my zoo shots still leave me feeling a bit
> like a cheat.  So a little natural flaw doesn't bother me as much as
> some others.
>
> I realize that all picture taking is a manipulation to some degree or
> another.  The lens chosen, the exposure, the filters, the angle and
> composition are all somewhat a manipulation of the subject.
>
> So does putting an insect in the fridge to make it sluggish bother
> you?  Does removing foliage or nearby plants bother you?  Does
> misting a spider web bother you?  The list can go on.
>
> Thoughts anyone?  Or shall we talk about aperture simulators?
>
>
> Here is the original:
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3580.htm
>
> Here is the 'fixed' one:
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3580a.htm
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bruce
>
>
> Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 1:24:04 PM, you wrote:
>
> k> Hey,. Shel...
> k> It's REALITY! What can I say?
> k> I loved what you captuted, but, change this and change that and I'd 
> find
> k> it more acceptable? Whatever that means...
>
> k> keith
>
>
> k> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>> Behind the three heads in the foreground, behind the center stalk and 
>>> the
>>> "V" created by the left and center stalks.
>>>
>>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3580.htm
>>>
>>> Shel
>
>
>>> [Original Message]
>>>> From: keith_w <keith_w
>>>
>>>> OOF flower head? All three are lousy with teeny, tiny hair-like fuzz
>>>> needles, that are quite clearly delineated. Some of them couldn't be
>>>> more than .001-.002" in diameter, yet Bruce and his hand-held lens
>>>> captured them well.
>
>
>
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