Sir, You wrote quote :
>>" If you change the aperture you get
>>instant exposure compensation"
I did read it correctly.
jco

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
P. J. Alling
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:23 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

Huh, didn't you actually read what I wrote?  You don't change the 
aperture between shots if you want it to work. The camera remembers the 
difference between wide open and stopped down from the last time you 
indexed the exposure.  Half pressing shutter wakes up the meter the 
camera takes that reading and applies the offset, as if it had an 
aperture simulator.  If you change aperture you have to re-index by 
pressing the green button or use the difference between offset and 
actual set aperture as an exposure adjustment. 

J. C. O'Connell wrote:

>Wont work because there is no way the camera knows
>You changed the apeture setting unless the aperture
>Is stopped down all the time and its not ( that would
>Drain the battery if they tried that as it's a solenoid
>If I am not mistaken ).
>jco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>P. J. Alling
>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:13 PM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
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>I think you're being too complicated.  How about this.  Call it auto 
>stop down compensation
>
>1.) Mount a K lens.  Or take an A/F/FA off A position.  The Camera 
>automatically senses this.
>2.) Set the mode dial to Av, if it's not there already.
>3.) Press the green button.
>     a) The camera takes a meter reading and temporally records it.
>     b) The lens stops down to taking aperture and makes a reading 
>subtracting the EV value from the temporally stored value.
>              The camera now knows the difference between wide open and

>the current F stop set on the lens. 
>
>Now every time you take an exposure the camera calculates the proper 
>exposure based on that offset. (It and also display an estimate of over

>or under exposure in the viewfinder).
>
>No extra dials or buttons to press.  If you change the aperture you get

>instant exposure compensation. 
>
>If you change aperture and don't want exposure compensation press the 
>green button again. 
>
>Make this type of operation a menu item in the custom menu with a 
>default to the Av behavior.
>
>Basically an aperture simulator for Av all done in software.
>
>The only problem is that you might run out metering range, but that's 
>true of using the green button Kludge now anyway.
>
>Cory Papenfuss wrote:
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>>>>    Of course it's academic since it's not an option with the
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>current
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>>>>firmware, but I don't think it would be too bad.  The +-EV only
works
>>>>within 3 EV from wide open, and even then you have to do the math of
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>how
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>>>>many stops you are from wide-open.
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>>>Or 6 if you calibrate on 3 stops up from open-aperture. I have done 
>>>it, Cory, it's a pain, even without having to go into a menu to 
>>>indicate the aperture.
>>>
>>>Kostas
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>>      I still think that's more confusing than what I'm thinking.  The
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>>most annoying thing is having to set (somewhere) the maximum aperture
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>>the lens... I'm thinking a "button+wheel" maneuver in P or Av mode
when
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>>you mount up a K/M lens.  Firmware could "blink" the aperture (e.g.
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>'1.4') 
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>>to let you know you set it.  After the lens is mounted and max dialed
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>in ,
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>>you just have to dial the wheel to match what you've set the lens to.
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>It 
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>>saves having to mentally do the math, allows open-aperture metering
all
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>>the way to the min aperture of the lens, and doesn't require the "GB 
>>trick" evertime the lighting changes... only that when you move the 
>>aperture ring on the lens you match it with the dial.
>>
>>      How exactly do you get 6 EV?
>>
>>-Cory
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