So why do you think it has to be stopped down?

J. C. O'Connell wrote:

>Sir, You wrote quote :
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>>>" If you change the aperture you get
>>>instant exposure compensation"
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>I did read it correctly.
>jco
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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>P. J. Alling
>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:23 PM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
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>Huh, didn't you actually read what I wrote?  You don't change the 
>aperture between shots if you want it to work. The camera remembers the 
>difference between wide open and stopped down from the last time you 
>indexed the exposure.  Half pressing shutter wakes up the meter the 
>camera takes that reading and applies the offset, as if it had an 
>aperture simulator.  If you change aperture you have to re-index by 
>pressing the green button or use the difference between offset and 
>actual set aperture as an exposure adjustment. 
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>J. C. O'Connell wrote:
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>>Wont work because there is no way the camera knows
>>You changed the apeture setting unless the aperture
>>Is stopped down all the time and its not ( that would
>>Drain the battery if they tried that as it's a solenoid
>>If I am not mistaken ).
>>jco
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>P. J. Alling
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:13 PM
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>Subject: Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
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>>I think you're being too complicated.  How about this.  Call it auto 
>>stop down compensation
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>>1.) Mount a K lens.  Or take an A/F/FA off A position.  The Camera 
>>automatically senses this.
>>2.) Set the mode dial to Av, if it's not there already.
>>3.) Press the green button.
>>    a) The camera takes a meter reading and temporally records it.
>>    b) The lens stops down to taking aperture and makes a reading 
>>subtracting the EV value from the temporally stored value.
>>             The camera now knows the difference between wide open and
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>>Now every time you take an exposure the camera calculates the proper 
>>exposure based on that offset. (It and also display an estimate of over
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>>No extra dials or buttons to press.  If you change the aperture you get
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>>instant exposure compensation. 
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>>If you change aperture and don't want exposure compensation press the 
>>green button again. 
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>>Make this type of operation a menu item in the custom menu with a 
>>default to the Av behavior.
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>>Basically an aperture simulator for Av all done in software.
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>>The only problem is that you might run out metering range, but that's 
>>true of using the green button Kludge now anyway.
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>>Cory Papenfuss wrote:
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>>>>>   Of course it's academic since it's not an option with the
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>>>>>firmware, but I don't think it would be too bad.  The +-EV only
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>>>>>within 3 EV from wide open, and even then you have to do the math of
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>>>>>many stops you are from wide-open.
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>>>>Or 6 if you calibrate on 3 stops up from open-aperture. I have done 
>>>>it, Cory, it's a pain, even without having to go into a menu to 
>>>>indicate the aperture.
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>>>>Kostas
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>>>     I still think that's more confusing than what I'm thinking.  The
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>>>most annoying thing is having to set (somewhere) the maximum aperture
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>>>the lens... I'm thinking a "button+wheel" maneuver in P or Av mode
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>>>you mount up a K/M lens.  Firmware could "blink" the aperture (e.g.
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>>>to let you know you set it.  After the lens is mounted and max dialed
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>>>you just have to dial the wheel to match what you've set the lens to.
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>>>saves having to mentally do the math, allows open-aperture metering
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>>>the way to the min aperture of the lens, and doesn't require the "GB 
>>>trick" evertime the lighting changes... only that when you move the 
>>>aperture ring on the lens you match it with the dial.
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>>>     How exactly do you get 6 EV?
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>>>-Cory
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>>>* Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA
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