Don't try to feed me this total absure B.S.  We were talking
About focus and compose with M42 on an SLR, not "NOT FOCUSSING".
You threw in a dumb RF camera example as "proof" you were
Doing it fine. That was/is totally wrong example to give.
jco

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Shel Belinkoff
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 6:58 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: RE: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)- NOT

Why must you continue to use such abusive language.  You only prove to
the
world what a childish moron you are.

The point of using the Leica M as a reference was to indicate that
focusing
is not necessary for certain types of shooting situations. I am talking
about shooting WITHOUT focusing, by using DOF rather than precise
focusing.
I do it with the Leica and I did it with the Spottie, and I've done it
with
K-mount lenses by setting the aperture and exposure and just not
bothering
to focus when the need is to shoot quickly.

You are so focused in seeing things only in your limited way that you
cannot accept or imagine that there are other ways and styles of
photography.

At times reading these threads in which you participate I've gotten
angry
or frustrated with you,  but this most recent series of messages, over
the
past couple-three days (!) I am feeling sorry for you.  You are filled,
it
seems, with such doubt, anger, and vitriol.  That you can spend so much
time arguing in such an angry and mean-spirited fashion indicates an
emptiness that must, somehow, be filled.  Three days of repeating the
same
tired, almost hatred-filled rhetoric, three days of hurling insults at
people and posting epithet-filled messages, indicates a person of
barren
spirit and soul.

Please seek professional help.  I am sure your county has some mental
health programs available, or perhaps your physician can recommend some
medication. I am serious.  I am concerned for you.

When I bought a lens from you off eBay your anger filled reaction was
very
similar to the way you're behaving here when I told you the front part
of
the lens was loose.  You accused me of having broken the lens, you
yelled
and fumed. Your behavior and attitude was such that I'll never deal with
you again on eBay, just as I, and others, won't deal with you here on
the
list.

You are a sad example of a human being.  I wish you the best ... Oh, by
the
way, go fuck yourself.

Kind regards from someone who's been there,

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: J. C. O'Connell 

> F&^%%ng A-hole. Leica M is a RF camera, not a SLR. You are not
> Viewing or focusing thru the lens so it doesn't matter
> Whether the lens is stopped down or not for those functions. With an
> SLR,
> Which is what the M42 lenses are used on and what
> We were specifically talking about, you have
> To focus and view thru the lens and it's dimmer
> And with much more DOF when stopped down, so it's harder and slower
> To focus accurately compared to wide open, especially with good fast
> lenses.  
> DUH. 
>
> Secondly, even if he wasn't using the viewfinder and had some
> Sort of sport finder in the hot shoe and used the DOF
> And scale focussed there wouldn't be anything to be gained
> By leaving the lens stopped down because the camera
> Shutter operates just as fast with the lens wide open
> As it does already stopped down.
>
> Its all bullshit, from both you and him.



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