I've atended a fair number of student slide critiques presented by outdoor professionals. For the most part the pros tried to point out a flaw in the image that could be improved & move that image to a higher level. On several occasions the working pro couldn't suggest anything and ghenerally acknowledged that by saying so.
Very seldom did they say an image was crap, unless they knew the owner well. Kenneth Waller -----Original Message----- >From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: PESO: Harvest Moon > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Sullivan" >Subject: Re: PESO: Harvest Moon > > >> Shel, >> >> What a stuck-up bunch of elitists we must look like. Put a picture up >> and we'll tell you where your are failing. Is that why we have >> PESO's? So we can frighten people off? What lurker is gonna put >> something out in this friendly forum? >> >> I know you know John personally and perhaps he feels comfortable with >> your critique. Funny, but I would of thought he wouldn't have >> bothered to post the picture if he thought it was so common that it >> would be immediately panned. >> >> This is what I imagine the Leica list is like. Post your picture and >> we will tell you why it isn't good enough. Wow, I wish we were the >> old Pentax list where folks tried to give constructive criticism and >> friendly advice. I don't feel that spirit in your comments. > >Respectfully, I disagree, >I have had my share of offlist abuse tossed at me because I practice >disagreement. > >For the most part, pictures posted to the list are greeted with oohs and >aahs. > >"Much nicer than any moon pic I have ever shot." >"Intriguing, dramatic. Excellent work IMO." >"Nice shot and an especially good conversion to BW..." > >With the occassional constructive critisism: > >"Wow, I was expecting to see a lot more web and a lot less spider. Not >> too bad with the circumstances. Handholding with that a short of DOF >> is quite difficult. >> Nice work" > >That stops just short of a circle jerk. > >This is just not healthy. >My mother taught me that if I had nothing nice to say, then say nothing. >Is that what is expected? >How can a person learn if they don't get told what they are doing wrong >by their peers? >If a picture is sophomoric crap, then someone should point this out. >If a person's work is developing a boring sameness, they should be told >they are developing a genre unto themselves, to perhaps snap them out of >the rut they are getting into. >If a picture is technically perfect, but esthetically boring, should >that go unstated? > >If you put a picture out there, and solicit comments, then take the good >with the bad. >It's not just about pleasing oneself, and just because oneself is >pleased with a picture doesn't automatically make it a good picture. > >Shooting broadsides at a picture may be unkind, shooting broadsides at >someone who had made an honest effort to critique a photo, whether or >not the critique is nice, is unfair. > >William Robb > > > > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >[email protected] >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
