Bigger picture?

I think most of us were aware that Canon has more than one model, Tom, but  
no doubt those who weren't are grateful to you.  :-)

John

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:43:44 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Actually I didn't have to work too hard. :-)  Partly just playing Devil's
> advocate, partly pointing out that there's a bigger picture when one  
> looks
> at all the data that was presented in the chart.
>
>
>
>
> Tom C.
> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
> numbered."
>
>
>
> From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To:  Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
> To:  Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
> Subject:  Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan
> Date:  Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:33:17 +0000
> The nonsensical part of it lies in taking what is essentially good news  
> and
> trying to twist it into something negative. You had to work hard to make  
> bad
> news out of this data.
> Paul
>   -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Point it out the nonsense then to me big guy.  I don't root for failure,
>> neither am I wearing a short cheerleaders uniform jumping around on the
>> sidelines.  It seems like some here grasp for every shread of positive  
>> news
>> they can get and then exaggerate it into something it's not.
>>
>> Fine, Pentax has one model that one recent week in Japan was the 3rd  
>> best
>> selling DSLR.  We don't know what made it a 3rd best seller or the  
>> actual
>> number of units sold compared to best sellers 1 and 2. Why did it sell  
>> so
>> well?  Features? Price? A price cut? The fact that it was Japan?
>>
>> Pentax has between a 3 - 4% share of the world-wide digital camera  
>> market.
>> That's it.  So for every 3 or 4 cameras Pentax sells (DSLR and other
>> digital), there are 96 or 97 other non-Pentax cameras sold.
>>
>> That's not exactly operating from a position of strength in a market  
>> that
>> appears to be pretty cut throat.
>>
>> Tom C.
>>
>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
>> numbered."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>> >Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan
>> >Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:26:33 -0400
>> >
>> >Of course you care whether Pentax succeeds. You root for failure. You
>> >try to find the dark side of everything. Most of what you say is
>> >nonsense.
>> >Paul
>> >On Aug 17, 2006, at 7:59 PM, Tom C wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hey you ARE attacking me with words like that.  I'm merely pointing
>> > > out 1)
>> > > the partial nature of the data and 2) that there's more than one
>> > > way to view
>> > > it aside from the superficially shouting "You go, Pentax!".
>> > >
>> > > I really don't care that much whether Pentax is a scuccess or
>> > > failure.  They
>> > > will be what they are with or without me.
>> > >
>> > > Tom C.
>> > >
>> > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed  
>> or
>> > > numbered."
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>> > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>> > >> Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan
>> > >> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:17:01 -0400
>> > >>
>> > >> HAR! You wonder why your positions here have been attacked.
>> > >> Pentax couldn't possibly be doing well. Never! Of course not. And  
>> if
>> > >> anyone critiques your negativity, they're apologists for Pentax,
>> > >> right?
>> > >> My local camera store told me that they were amazed by the demand  
>> for
>> > >> the K100. In the past, they've rarely stocked any Pentax equipment.
>> > >> Now they have the K100 and all the DA lenses.
>> > >> On Aug 17, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Tom C wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> It's one Pentax model vs. how many Canons combined?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> It's only a one-week snapshot of the country of Japan.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> It's a new model so one might anticipate high sales shortly after
>> > >>> release,
>> > >>> to be likewise eclipsed by sales of a subsequent model (Pentax or
>> > >>> competitor).
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Tom C.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed,
>> > >>> debriefed or
>> > >>> numbered."
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>> > >>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
>> > >>>> Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan
>> > >>>> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:54:03 +0100
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> It's nice to see Pentax ahead of all the Canons.  Be interesting
>> > >>>> to watch
>> > >>>> the share price over the next few months.  With any luck that  
>> nasty
>> > >>>> asset-stripper Abe X will sell up and move on.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> John
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:50:45 +0100, Mark Roberts
>> > >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> keith_w wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Mark Roberts wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>> http://www.dslrphoto.com/2006/08/17/japan-most-popular-digital-
>> > >>>> camera-ranking-aug-7-to-aug-13-2006/
>> > >>>>>>> Behind the Nikon D200 and the Sony A100, but ahead of a whole
>> > >>>>>>> lot of
>> > >>>>>>> Canons and Nikons.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> The K100D sells there for only US$550?
>> > >>>>>> Is that without lens?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> And the Sony A100 is $722!
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
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