I don't know the future, that's for sure.  Time will tell.


Tom C.

"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or 
numbered."




From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:04:06 -0500

TomC,

20 some years ago there was a study of companies market share and
profitability (PIMS).  It has shaped thinking on the subject and
corporate actions since then.
In short, it looked across a broad array of markets and companies
(1,000's) and found there were two ways to make a good profit in an
industry.  Either you had to be the big dog - market share leader with
a majority share (or maybe you #2) to make money or you had to be a
niche player who survives by creating value and special customer
features that the big dogs couldn't be bothered matching or squashing.

Point is, it's OK to be a small market share survivor in the camera
market if that is your objective.  Stop beating Pentax up for it.

Regards,  Bob S.

On 8/18/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > Point it out the nonsense then to me big guy.  I don't root for failure,
 > neither am I wearing a short cheerleaders uniform jumping around on the
 > sidelines.  It seems like some here grasp for every shread of positive 
news
 > they can get and then exaggerate it into something it's not.
 >
 > Fine, Pentax has one model that one recent week in Japan was the 3rd best
 > selling DSLR.  We don't know what made it a 3rd best seller or the actual
 > number of units sold compared to best sellers 1 and 2. Why did it sell so
 > well?  Features? Price? A price cut? The fact that it was Japan?
 >
 > Pentax has between a 3 - 4% share of the world-wide digital camera 
market.
 > That's it.  So for every 3 or 4 cameras Pentax sells (DSLR and other
 > digital), there are 96 or 97 other non-Pentax cameras sold.
 >
 > That's not exactly operating from a position of strength in a market that
 > appears to be pretty cut throat.
 >
 > Tom C.
 >
 > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
 > numbered."
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > >From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
 > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
 > >Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan
 > >Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:26:33 -0400
 > >
 > >Of course you care whether Pentax succeeds. You root for failure. You
 > >try to find the dark side of everything. Most of what you say is
 > >nonsense.
 > >Paul
 > >On Aug 17, 2006, at 7:59 PM, Tom C wrote:
 > >
 > > > Hey you ARE attacking me with words like that.  I'm merely pointing
 > > > out 1)
 > > > the partial nature of the data and 2) that there's more than one
 > > > way to view
 > > > it aside from the superficially shouting "You go, Pentax!".
 > > >
 > > > I really don't care that much whether Pentax is a scuccess or
 > > > failure.  They
 > > > will be what they are with or without me.
 > > >
 > > > Tom C.
 > > >
 > > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
 > > > numbered."
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
 > > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
 > > >> Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan
 > > >> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:17:01 -0400
 > > >>
 > > >> HAR! You wonder why your positions here have been attacked.
 > > >> Pentax couldn't possibly be doing well. Never! Of course not. And if
 > > >> anyone critiques your negativity, they're apologists for Pentax,
 > > >> right?
 > > >> My local camera store told me that they were amazed by the demand 
for
 > > >> the K100. In the past, they've rarely stocked any Pentax equipment.
 > > >> Now they have the K100 and all the DA lenses.
 > > >> On Aug 17, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Tom C wrote:
 > > >>
 > > >>> It's one Pentax model vs. how many Canons combined?
 > > >>>
 > > >>> It's only a one-week snapshot of the country of Japan.
 > > >>>
 > > >>> It's a new model so one might anticipate high sales shortly after
 > > >>> release,
 > > >>> to be likewise eclipsed by sales of a subsequent model (Pentax or
 > > >>> competitor).
 > > >>>
 > > >>>
 > > >>> Tom C.
 > > >>>
 > > >>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed,
 > > >>> debriefed or
 > > >>> numbered."
 > > >>>
 > > >>>
 > > >>>
 > > >>>
 > > >>>
 > > >>>
 > > >>>
 > > >>>> From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > > >>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
 > > >>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
 > > >>>> Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan
 > > >>>> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:54:03 +0100
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>> It's nice to see Pentax ahead of all the Canons.  Be interesting
 > > >>>> to watch
 > > >>>> the share price over the next few months.  With any luck that 
nasty
 > > >>>> asset-stripper Abe X will sell up and move on.
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>> John
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:50:45 +0100, Mark Roberts
 > > >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > > >>>> wrote:
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>>> keith_w wrote:
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>>> Mark Roberts wrote:
 > > >>>>>>>
 > > >>>> http://www.dslrphoto.com/2006/08/17/japan-most-popular-digital-
 > > >>>> camera-ranking-aug-7-to-aug-13-2006/
 > > >>>>>>> Behind the Nikon D200 and the Sony A100, but ahead of a whole
 > > >>>>>>> lot of
 > > >>>>>>> Canons and Nikons.
 > > >>>>>>
 > > >>>>>> The K100D sells there for only US$550?
 > > >>>>>> Is that without lens?
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>> And the Sony A100 is $722!
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>>
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