WOW :-D
This idea is so crazy that it might actually help me. 

If you have anything more to say on this, then I'll suggest you sign the
post Dr. Tom C.


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 11. april 2006 17:48
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Composing on screen vs. in viewfinder.
> 
> OK then I have the solution... when cropping post capture, hold your
> camera
> up and view the monitor through it. I hope you're ambidextrous.  Crop in
> the
> viewfinder while simultaneously cropping in screen with the mouse.  When
> you've got it right, press the shutter release and dbl-click the left
> mouse
> button at the same time.
> 
> Hope this helps. :-)
> 
> 
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Subject: RE: Composing on screen vs. in viewfinder.
> >Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:40:15 +0200
> >
> >When pushing the button in the filed it is a _moment_, when doing the
> same
> >at home it is a _process_.
> >This sums the problem up pretty well I think.
> >
> >It is a psychological thing. Anybody who knows a good shrink ;-)
> >
> >
> >Tim
> >Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
> >
> >Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
> >(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 11. april 2006 17:23
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: RE: Composing on screen vs. in viewfinder.
> > >
> > > I thought I actually provided an answer but maybe not at as plainly as
> > > this.
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > Crop exactly the same way post-capture as you would in the viewfinder.
> > > Exact
> > > same principles.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tom C.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [email protected]
> > > >To: <[email protected]>
> > > >Subject: RE: Composing on screen vs. in viewfinder. Date: Tue, 11 Apr
> > > 2006
> > > >13:39:05 +0200
> > > >
> > > >List. You are not responding to my question, you are simply burping
> >gas.
> > > >Helicopter is out of the question ;-)
> > > >
> > > >My question was something like this. How do I become better at
> cropping
> > > at
> > > >computer? I tried to analyze the situation a bit, but the question
> was
> >as
> > > >simple as that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Tim
> > > >Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
> > > >
> > > >Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
> > > >(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: 10. april 2006 23:53
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: Composing on screen vs. in viewfinder.
> > > > >
> > > > > Those of you reading the list lately may have noticed that I have
> a
> > > > > project
> > > > > going on, that forces me to explore some new land (read learn new
> > > > > techniques).
> > > > > How a beeeep should you avoid noticing that? With my endless
> ranting
> > > > > questions ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been talking about using longer lenses, building hides and
> so
> > > on.
> > > > > This has been great fun, and I am learning a lot about photography
> >and
> > > > > birds. My longest glass that is usable is 500mm (with converter it
> > > tends
> > > > > to
> > > > > be too soft), so I have to crop the pictures to make them
> >interesting.
> > > > >
> > > > > This has made me realise that I am a lot better at composing in
> > > >viewfinder
> > > > > then I am with composing on computer screen. I have been thinking
> > > about
> > > > > this. I have some ideas about why.
> > > > >
> > > > > First:
> > > > > It is that in the field I compose more on instinct. I am there,
> and
> >I
> > > >have
> > > > > emotions about the motifs. My heart is involved, and I believe
> that
> >it
> > > >is
> > > > > my
> > > > > heart that makes the composing decisions. Back at home, the motifs
> >are
> > > > > more
> > > > > distant to me, so there I compose by brain (and as you know,
> that's
> > > not
> > > > > much
> > > > > of a brain).
> > > > >
> > > > > The second reason has to do with the decisive moment:
> > > > > When I shot slides my mind was in "capture mode" (sorry Shel, I
> know
> > > you
> > > > > don't like that word). When pushing the button I knew that what is
> >in
> > > > > frame,
> > > > > stays in frame, and what is out of frame, stays out. (Everybody
> who
> > > has
> > > > > tried masking slides in glassless frames, knows that you do
> >everything
> > > >you
> > > > > can to avoid that activity later).
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, when shooting digitally, being forced to crop later something
> > > >happens
> > > > > with my mindset. There is no decisive moment in post processing on
> > > > > computer.
> > > > > There is always possible to go back.
> > > > >
> > > > > What I'm saying is that I think I need the decisive moment to make
> a
> > > >good
> > > > > composition. I also need to be emotionally connected with the
> motif
> >in
> > > > > some
> > > > > way.
> > > > >
> > > > > But what do I do about this? Practise is one obvious answer. And I
> > > will
> > > > > practise. But, I also have a strong belief in the power and wisdom
> >of
> > > >this
> > > > > list. I would really surprise me if it doesn't burp up some good
> >ideas
> > > >and
> > > > > advise.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim
> > > > > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
> > > > >
> > > > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
> > > > > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 




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