Well Frank, with all sincerity,
It ~is~ other people on this list. It's not everyone. It's not most.
There were no ~demands~ for apologies.
We don't have a collective head.
I have a hard time understanding why peoples words are so often twisted and
propagated to mean something this didn't.
I'm sorry that this project that you had a hand in delivering to the list
got out of hand. It was kind on your part to make us aware. I still hold
to the opinion that the list is not to blame, it is not an organization, or
an entity.
Tom C.
We've had a lot of ridiculous flame-wars over the years, but this has
to take the cake.
You all may have noticed that I haven't been posting much over the
past couple of weeks, and this shit is the reason why. It just
doesn't seem like the warm, welcoming place that it was before I
started this thread.
I honestly thought this would be a fun thing. Those that were
interested in participating would do so, and derive some satisfaction
that others were enjoying their photos, while in some small way
helping out Our Corporate Mother. I figured that those who didn't
want to participate, or who wanted some sort of remuneration, or were
worried that their photos would be used for nefarious purposes would
just SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DO NOTHING!
Once a few questions were raised, and I posted Marco's Pentax Canada
e-mail address, and I thought (again), "Okay, frank, this is the end
of it. We might hear from a few people what a nice guy Marco is, and
how he answered questions promptly and politely, and how a few folks
have sent in images. This thing's over now." (as an aside, a few did
make such posts, which I was glad to see)
I was wrong. This thing has simply devolved into a morass of
accusations, finger pointing and demands for apologies the likes of
which I've rarely seen. Now I see after Doug's post, people are still
being defensive and saying "it's not the list as a whole, it's not me,
it's ~other people~ on this list."
It's all been quite unseemly, and Doug is right, we should all hang
our collective heads in shame. The list as a whole has misbehaved. I
accept some responsibility, not because I started the thread, but just
because I'm here. This used to be a pretty cool place to be.
It's not any more.
cheers,
frank
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"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
