On 2/9/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > <snip> > >The actions of a few members have given the PDML a black eye, and I > >am ashamed of it. Someone owes the list an apology, and it damn sure > >isn't Pentax Canada. > > Thanks Doug. I think this last thought is what's been subconsciously > bothering me without my being able to articulate it. I almost killfiled > this thread last night. Glad I waited until after your message to do so.
We've had a lot of ridiculous flame-wars over the years, but this has to take the cake. You all may have noticed that I haven't been posting much over the past couple of weeks, and this shit is the reason why. It just doesn't seem like the warm, welcoming place that it was before I started this thread. I honestly thought this would be a fun thing. Those that were interested in participating would do so, and derive some satisfaction that others were enjoying their photos, while in some small way helping out Our Corporate Mother. I figured that those who didn't want to participate, or who wanted some sort of remuneration, or were worried that their photos would be used for nefarious purposes would just SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DO NOTHING! Once a few questions were raised, and I posted Marco's Pentax Canada e-mail address, and I thought (again), "Okay, frank, this is the end of it. We might hear from a few people what a nice guy Marco is, and how he answered questions promptly and politely, and how a few folks have sent in images. This thing's over now." (as an aside, a few did make such posts, which I was glad to see) I was wrong. This thing has simply devolved into a morass of accusations, finger pointing and demands for apologies the likes of which I've rarely seen. Now I see after Doug's post, people are still being defensive and saying "it's not the list as a whole, it's not me, it's ~other people~ on this list." It's all been quite unseemly, and Doug is right, we should all hang our collective heads in shame. The list as a whole has misbehaved. I accept some responsibility, not because I started the thread, but just because I'm here. This used to be a pretty cool place to be. It's not any more. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
