That has been my feeling as well. If I was putting 2 + 2 together, I would
guess that I percieved an official request being handled in an unofficial
manner, when the reality may have been that it was an unofficial request.
Tom C.
From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:46:48 -0500
I don't disagree.
I feel it would have had more legitimacy if he had directly contacted the
list on behalf of Pentax Canada.
Why didn't he is the question.
Kenneth Waller
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix
I think it was natural to think that since the person works for Pentax
Canada and the photos were to be used by somone representing Pentax Canada
at a trade show, that it was indeed Pentax Canada that using our photos
and not just an individual.
At least that was my perception.
Tom C.
From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:08:55 -0500
This was the first time I know of that an individual representing a
corporate entity came to the list looking for photographs to use in a
trade show or for marketing purposes.
Did I miss an email? I don't recall seeing an email from Pentax Canada
soliciting images for their usage. I do remember seeing an email from a
PDMLer relaying a request from a Pentax Canada employee.
I never sent them anything but I would have if the request was made
direct to this list.
I'm not slighting any of the PDMLers that were involved with that
request.
Kenneth Waller
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix
But phrases just like that (or even opposite of that) are frequently
used almost, if not every time I've seen an organization asking for
photo submissions. Photo contests, Magazine articles, the photo gallery
websites, you name it. Whether it's legally necessary or not isn't the
point. I have a friend who came and told me he was going to use one of
my photo.net images for something and then he read the copyright notice
and didn't do it. This guy is, of course honest, it wouldn't stop other
people. Of course then I told him to feel free to use them (mostly for
home/computer made greeting cards, thank you notes, etc.).
This was the first time I know of that an individual representing a
corporate entity came to the list looking for photographs to use in a
trade show or for marketing purposes. As such, I think individuals
naturally had an expectation that the whole thing would be handled in
that corporate manner we all tend to expect. I's dotted and T's
crossed. Marco did not even join the list and announce it himself, did
he? That might have made a difference. Actually I think the fact that
he was representing a corporate entitiy and we heard about the request
third hand, albeit by people we already knew, lessened his credibility.
Don't worry my fingers are starting to cramp...
Tom C.
From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:42:20 -0500
"Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>And yes I think the words "Photographer
>retains all rights or something like that should have been used".
There is no legal reason in the world why that is necessary.
>The whole thing was just sort of bungled from the Pentax side...
Perhaps they should have been more prepared for suspicion and cynicism.
I'd say they overestimated their audience rather than bungled.
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Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
