Dario, I agree.
But do you welcome all Samsung users?
Even the ones using a Samsung mobile phone, a Samsung made Rollei w.
Schneider lenses etc.

When the German camera industy got in trouble after WW2, many companies
chose to sell their good name, in order to get at least some money out
before closing down production.

Someone here recently said, that names are being "diluted".
Meaning old names are sold to new/other manufacturers:
Contax, Exakta, Rollei etc.

This development is, however, not the case with Pentax - not yet, anyway.
Pentax is selling their designs, thier know-how, their patents etc. But only
Pentax products are labeled Pentax - or at least only products approved by
Pentax are. So far Pentax still make cameras of their own.

BTW: Schneider Kreuznach is still a "live" (German) company, making or
designing lenses for camera manufacturers like Samsung, Rolleiflex (once
owned by Samsung) and others. Like Carl Zeiss make lenses for many other
companies like Hasselblad (Sweden) and Sony (Japan). Schneider now owns the
names (companies) B+W Filters, Pentacon and Praktica.

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: Dario Bonazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 29. januar 2006 10:08
Til: [email protected]
Emne: Re: *ist DL2


Jens,

Please define a Pentax lens. Can a Pentax-rebadged Tamron be considered more
Pentax than a genuine Pentax just rebadged as a Schneider-Kreuznach? I don't
think so.

It is evident that Pentax and Samsung SLR's are the same stuff, hence I
think we can just welcome Samsung users here, without any concern or endless
debate.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:32 AM
Subject: RE: *ist DL2


> Butsh wrote:
>>Time to play devil's advocate. If this is true will we allow users of
>>these
>>Samsung "clones" to enter the monthly PUG?
>
> Interesting Question, Butch.
> When I do a shot with my *ist D, I may be using a Tokina, Sigma or Tamron
> lens (if not a Pentax).
> The image will be recorded on a sensor from SONY. The light haven't really
> "touched" anything made by Pentax.
> Still, I can post it a Pentax shot, right?
>
> Well, according to the PUG rules either body or lens must be from Pentax:
> "Submissions must have been made using Asahi/Pentax camera equipment.
> Third
> party equipment is welcome if it is Pentax compatible, and either the body
> or lens is Asahi/Pentax".
>
> So, if you put a Pentax lens on a Samsung body - or vise versa - it's OK
> with the current PUG rules.
>
> If new rules are to be applied, I'd suggest that only a Pentax lens can be
> used for the PUG.
> Regards
>
>
> Jens Bladt
> http://www.jensbladt.dk
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: Butch Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 29. januar 2006 02:57
> Til: [email protected]
> Emne: Re: *ist DL2
>
>
>
> Pentax *istDL2
> Pentax has announced a minor upgrade to the *istDL - but only for users in
> Asia and Canada. The *istDL2 offers a couple of extra focus points, a few
> new scene modes and a couple of bits of silver plastic (where the DL was
> all-black). Looking at the spec the DL2 appears to be the Pentax version
> of
> the Samsung GX-1S, announced earlier this month, and may be an indication
> of
> the intention to sell the future cameras as Pentax branded in some markets
> and Samsung cameras in others (namely Europe and the US).
>
>
> Time to play devil's advocate. If this is true will we allow users of
> these
> Samsung "clones" to enter the monthly PUG?
>
> Butch
>
>
>
>



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