On 8/15/05, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I have a couple of observations which may be if interest.
> 
> One is that, next time you might consider a slightly less adversarial
> reply, even if the  questioner is obviously ignorant of the law.
> Sometimes, a friendly and reassuring chat can allay fears and suspicions,
> even if not totally satisfying the inquisitor. For instance, if the old
> lady had taken your retort badly, she may have called the police, and
> that could have been both embarrassing and unnecessary, not to mention a
> big inconvenience for you. There are plenty of places in the world where
> undercover police are watching for just such activity and will readily
> arrest and detain for several hours while film is processed and checked,
> memory cards perused, and computers and hard drives confiscated and
> examined in detail, with property being returned after some days or
> weeks. (q.v. Trafalgar Square, London).
> 
> The other is that if I am in a similar situation, and I am overtly
> photographing a scene which may include children with their parents in
> proximity, I would approach the parents and have a quick chat just to
> reassure them that I am a genuine person, and not some nutter - I usually
> say that I am a mature photography student (which is not a direct lie - I
> am 45, and always learning about photography). A laugh and a joke, and
> even the offer of prints, and I have yet to be refused. If I was, i would
> move on - sure i could take the picture anyway, but I like my pics to
> have *good karma*  :-)
> 
> When working, if I am filming in the street, I often get do-gooders
> accosting me about whether I have this permission or that permission for
> anything from filming a house, to filming people, to filming the sunset.
> I always say yes (which is a lie). Just saves time.

I don't disagree with anything you say, Cotty.  First, let me point
out she wasn't an old lady, but was likely half my age (which puts her
in her mid-20's).  My reaction could/should have been much calmer, but
I was reacting (poorly) to what I perceived to be her adversarial
nature.

Maybe I was in a pissy mood (I know, hard to believe <g>).

Anyway, here in Toronto, it's unlikely that any police are going to
confiscate any cameras for taking photos in a public square in the
heart of downtown - at least not yet.

But, I certainly agree with gist of your post, and usually, I'm much
more easy-going in my dealings with people "on the street".  Indeed,
usually I do have their permission (often tacit) when taking photos.

cheers,
frank


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