Well, when we get right down to it, the only difference between a snapshooter (I just want to take pictures) and a Photographer (I want to make the best pictures I can) is knowledge of the craft of photography. Now there is nothing wrong with either of those choices, they are just a personal decision.
What I do not understand is why the snapshooters insist that they are 
photographers too? How can anyone claim to be a photographer without knowledge 
of the craft. No, it is worse they claim that only a fool would bother learning 
the craft because they are great photographers without knowing anything about 
it. It is sort or like doing a paint by numbers kit and claiming to be an oil 
painting artist.

There are only a few controls a photographer has to know, but he has to know a lot of rules to use those few controls in all kinds of situations. Modern cameras have those rules built in. It is just a matter of choosing the correct program. Only a photographer knows when to break the rules, no computer knows when to do that. Also to select those many programs you have to know all the info in that 100+ page instruction book that came with your camera. Plus you have to know when to use which program. If you actually do know when to use which program then you can do it yourself with those few controls faster than you can change the programs.
Of course you have to learn a few manual skills which take a bit of practice. 
Interestingly enough photographers used to tell neophytes to take a lot of 
photos because that honed those skills. Somehow that advice has become take a 
lot of photos because one of them might be good.

Now we get this you can not take certain photos without these camera features. 
My suggestion to folks who think like that is to look through a bunch of Life 
or Look magazines from the 50's or earlier. Those photos were all taken without 
any of those camera features. Maybe we old farts do actually know a few  things 
that the whippersnappers are too dumb to learn.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
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Don Sanderson wrote:
This is a really interesting thread to be reading
while I'm in the middle of studying the Ansel Adams
3 volume "Photography Series" (The Camera, The
Negative and The Print) for the fourth time.
If focus, exposure and printing are no longer some-
thing to concern myself with then I'm wasting a good
bit of time reading books by that finicky old
curmudgeon.
He seems to want to substitute the words "the very
best you can do" for "good enough". Imagine that!
Oh well, maybe he was just old-fashioned.

Don




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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 10:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?


Oh, no, you have not been reading the list long enough. Autofocus
is far more accurate than manual focusing.

HAR, HAR, HAR, ...

My camera is smarter than your camera!

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
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David Zaninovic wrote:

Forget manual focusing too, autofocus is "good enough". :)


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From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?




----- Original Message -----
From: "David Zaninovic"
Subject: Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?




That's right, if you shoot raw and you captured all the info who cares
about the exposure, you can change exposure during raw
converting process and the result will be identical as if you

compensated

the exposure correctly at the time of shooting.  The
important thing to take care of is not to have blown

highlights or shadow

go to pure black and matrix metering in flat light will
take care of that in most of the cases.  I still would compensate for
black or white door but for the sake of discussion I don't
think it would make so much difference as you think.

There you have it kids.
Forget metering, accurate exposure doesn't matter anymore.
Just fix it in Photoshop.

William Robb






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